Tren and anger

**Roger11** · 10-20-2014, 04:35 PM

Anyone else get this? First time ever on tren and ive run it heaps of times that im raging at little things. I can feel it, the anger is a different type of anger since being on. I can feel the anger start builidng up then i release it, had more arguments with the girlfriend the past few days than i have in my entire R/S.

One last night was because she is going out with a few mates next week to a bar and i felt left out because she didnt invite me, yet i go to the effort of everytime we go out to include her with my mates and even go so far as to invite her mate along aswell. Her excuse was oh cant i just go out with my mates . do you have to be there all the time. And when your there i just focus on you and not my mates. I call bullshit but whatever. But i got so angry last night the anger just felt 'different'.

Anyone else get anger issues on tren?

**qscgugcsq** · 10-20-2014, 05:07 PM

Thats a side of tren ...

Sounds sketchy about your GF... But anyway.

Yes I get that also if you cant control it then drop it, its not for you.

That can screw your life pretty bad...

Hopefully im a peacefull guy but on tren its different...

If you are already prone to being aggressive then on tren youll be a psychopath... Kidding but it wonr feel good.

**kelkel** · 10-20-2014, 05:11 PM

Roger ease up buddy. Being in a relationship doesn't mean you can't still be an individual and do things separately. It's actually a very healthy thing to do. Let her go out and bond with her friends. You should do the same. Quickest way to ruin a relationship is trying to control the other person. Keep it up and she'll be gone.

**BeingSwole** · 10-20-2014, 05:12 PM

Haahaha, my wife always feels the need to tag along when I go out with friends. The problem with it is that she isn't the most talkative so I spend more time with her than kicking it with my pals. Now when she goes out she goes on her own with friends. Interesting that I don't get the same type of invite from her, but maybe she knows I won't go anyways. Which guy really wants to be with a bunch of women especially if a woman in the group in your wife. Lol. What I do now is not even invite her to my groups so now we're even and I can focus on myself and having a great time and laughing at every focking thing.

**Roger11** · 10-20-2014, 05:16 PM

i just dont understand really why i wasnt invited. I know for a fact if i want on tren i wouldnt care, but since being on this new labs tren e that ive never used before it seems very potent and is making me paranoid and thinking the worst of the worst.

I understand that kelkel, its just i always invite her everywhere even with my mates and she is happy to go alone with mates and neglect me like a piece of shit!. Just hurts the way she put it and she already apologised. Guess i just needed to vent guys, thanks for listenning. I feel pretty bad about arguing and shouting at her last night, we made up but i still feel awful and tried contacting her today a few times but shes working and barely replies. Guess i should just leave it then? What sohuld i do?

**Roger11** · 10-20-2014, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Roger ease up buddy. Being in a relationship doesn't mean you can't still be an individual and do things separately. It's actually a very healthy thing to do. Let her go out and bond with her friends. You should do the same. Quickest way to ruin a relationship is trying to control the other person. Keep it up and she'll be gone.

I trust her, i just get paranoid, here in aus, when guys get drunk they hit on anything, they wont take no for an answer. Ive already been told by my missus that when she has gone out, guys offer to buy her drinks, some guy touched her ass, she tells them to back off but im paranoid she will come across the wrong guy that wont take no for an answer and something bad will happen. Or what if she ends up getting to drunk, if she even drinks which she rarely does and cheats on me? SO many paranoid feelings, i really dont like being on tren anymore.

**Roger11** · 10-20-2014, 05:19 PM

Do any of you guys take any medications to relax on tren , besides valium and xanax, i doubt i can get a script here in aus for that. Anything else?

**Roger11** · 10-20-2014, 05:19 PM

Just need something to take until i finish the tren i guess.

**BeingSwole** · 10-20-2014, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Roger11

I trust her, i just get paranoid, here in aus, when guys get drunk they hit on anything, they wont take no for an answer. Ive already been told by my missus that when she has gone out, guys offer to buy her drinks, some guy touched her ass, she tells them to back off but im paranoid she will come across the wrong guy that wont take no for an answer and something bad will happen. Or what if she ends up getting to drunk, if she even drinks which she rarely does and cheats on me? SO many paranoid feelings, i really dont like being on tren anymore.

May be better that you're not there because then you'll be in body guard mode. Let it cool down if you can. Don't be over apologetic for being caring and nice. Don't text her all day. If none of this works for you, please do what works for you because you're the on in the situation. I hope everything works put for you.

**PistolPete33** · 10-20-2014, 07:55 PM

I'm the same on Tren . You get caught up on the smallest detail and can't let it go. Tren makes me insecure at higher doses. I would def. say you need to either drop the Tren or cut it in half. Not worht losing a GF because of it. It makes me irrational.

**lovbyts** · 10-20-2014, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Roger11

Do any of you guys take any medications to relax on tren, besides valium and xanax, i doubt i can get a script here in aus for that. Anything else?

Bump up your AI, your E2 is probably up. Get blood work done just so you will know for sure. Cut down on the tren also. I would say 300mg or less per week. Rarely more is needed.

Ive had it effect me like that once but find running it lower I dont have any of the issues and the gains are more solid.

**qscgugcsq** · 10-21-2014, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Bump up your AI, your E2 is probably up. Get blood work done just so you will know for sure. Cut down on the tren also. I would say 300mg or less per week. Rarely more is needed.

Ive had it effect me like that once but find running it lower I dont have any of the issues and the gains are more solid.

Well BW may be useless in that case.

I did BW last month while on tren and tren as been test as estradiol. My E2 was over 5200 on a scale of 30-120(around that...)

And I was only on 250mg tesr/week with .5 mg arimidex E3.5D

**marcus300** · 10-21-2014, 05:38 AM

Self control and understanding what your taking could be the results of your actions and feeling, take a few mins to respond before you blow your top, don't be an arse on gear otherwise stop gear. Direct the aggression to the gym and totally kill yourself and failure and beyond. Sometimes out side influences seems more important but in reality they are not. Understand the feelings of angry and control them. Its easy once you learn mind control

**lovbyts** · 10-21-2014, 05:39 AM

Where did you get it? Some like liquidstane better and you might need to add in some Tamoxifen

**Jaydenn** · 10-21-2014, 05:41 AM

Agree with most of the above comments, get your bloodwork done to find the underlying cause,
If you normally are an angry guy, well thus could make it worst.
But keep your AI stable, and you should be good to go.

**fit2bOld** · 10-21-2014, 06:24 AM

Taking Tren requires an extra level of awareness. 19 nors are notorious for driving estrogen so keeping E2 in check very important.

Second as was noted earlier being cognitive of the possible mental effects of tren and the ability to take a time out when you feel that anger/emotions building.

**LAbuddy** · 10-21-2014, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Roger11

I trust her, i just get paranoid, here in aus, when guys get drunk they hit on anything, they wont take no for an answer. Ive already been told by my missus that when she has gone out, guys offer to buy her drinks, some guy touched her ass, she tells them to back off but im paranoid she will come across the wrong guy that wont take no for an answer and something bad will happen. Or what if she ends up getting to drunk, if she even drinks which she rarely does and cheats on me? SO many paranoid feelings, i really dont like being on tren anymore.

Hey Roger11, I had the same experience. I ran TREN E for some weeks and my mood changed after 10 days. I became stressed out and VERY anxious, and irritable. and the paranoia is real, that shit makes you paranoid for everything and it is not good for you or ur gfriend. I cut off TREN immediately and it has been 1.5 months since I stopped it. I feel much better now, but still dealing with side effects. I hope to get back to normal in 2 weeks or so.That shit last for a long time after. My recommendation is to stop the TREN immediately and start drinking a lot of water, sauna, etc, to eliminate the tren in your body. Also, I am taking anti anxiety pills and they helped a lot, but not completely. Wish you all the best buddy!

**badmeetsevil** · 10-21-2014, 06:07 PM

I have ran tren ace 150 ed and tren enanthate up to 800mgs a week. Agression does come with tren. More noticably your blood pressure may rise. My blood pressure gets really high on tren so I won't do the enanthate anymore. This rise in blood pressure did seem to give me added agression. Nothing is like tren simply a great compound. However it can come with some nasty sides such as aggression. You really have to be in tune with yourself and keep your self in check and not let the agression, anxiety get the best of you.

**Ashop** · 10-21-2014, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Roger11

Anyone else get this? First time ever on tren and ive run it heaps of times that im raging at little things. I can feel it, the anger is a different type of anger since being on. I can feel the anger start builidng up then i release it, had more arguments with the girlfriend the past few days than i have in my entire R/S.

One last night was because she is going out with a few mates next week to a bar and i felt left out because she didnt invite me, yet i go to the effort of everytime we go out to include her with my mates and even go so far as to invite her mate along aswell. Her excuse was oh cant i just go out with my mates . do you have to be there all the time. And when your there i just focus on you and not my mates. I call bullshit but whatever. But i got so angry last night the anger just felt 'different'.

Anyone else get anger issues on tren?

It can increase aggression,,,its one of the strongest AAS ever created.
TREN isnt for everyone and should ONLY be used by the well advanced
in my opinion.

**got fina?** · 10-21-2014, 07:44 PM

Yes, Tren has a lot of sides that many cant handle good. Thank god i don't have this problem since its one of my favorite steroids . One thing you can try is cutting back a little on the dosage since you dont need a lot of Tren anyway. Most i have seen take more than what is needed and experience these sides.

The good thing is that you caught yourself and noticed the difference it is causing in your anger and personality. This is important and many go on with cycle without even noticing only to ruin relationships.

Best thing to do IMO is cut back a little and see how this feels and if not, take it out of your cycle all together. Loosing long time relationships with friends and GF are just not worth taking Tren over. There are many other steroids out there that will work just as well and allow you to continue to be you.

Good luck!!

**Mp859** · 10-21-2014, 09:51 PM

Aren't you the same guy that wAs taking 700mgs this 700mgs that and bragging about being able todo so with no issues? And asking marcus what's the highest doses he has ran of certain compounds? I feel like you have been overdoing it from the beginning.