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    Question Test Var Clen cutting cycle from 210lbs 10% bf to 180 lbs 5% bf?

    Hi, I'm doing my 1st cycle with medical supervision. I'm 30 yo male, 10 years trainning experience, 210 lbs 10% bf. Diet 1680cal 185p/102c/59f workout 6x week. var 45 mg ed, test 100mg ed, clen 100mcg ed. I'm running this for 8 weeks. Will be possible to drop my weight to 180 lbs 5% bf?
    ==Wake up (7am)==
    Cafffeine 400mg
    Clen 100 mcg (w1 25 mcg w2 50 mcg w3 75 mcg w4-w8 100 mcg)
    Anavar 15 mg
    ==Pre workout (11am)==
    Sodium Bicarbonate 16g
    BCAA 8g
    Tyrosine 8g
    Citrulline 8g
    ==Workout==
    10min LISS
    monday/thursday (4xchest 3xtriceps)
    tuesday/friday (4xback 3xbiceps)
    wednesday/saturday (4xlegs 3xshoulders)
    monday/wednesday/friday (abs)
    every body part is done 8reps 80% 1RM + 8reps 60% 1RM+ 8reps 40% 1RM + rest 1min (repeat 3 times),
    so monday 4xchest means 12 sets of 24 reps, monday 3xtriceps means 9 sets of 24 reps.
    ==Post workout==
    Anavar 15 mg
    ==Post workout divided by 4 parts (every 2 hours) (1/4 12pm, 1/4 14pm, 1/4 16pm, 1/4 18pm)==
    Oatmeal 100g
    Whey Protein 90% 50g
    Casein 50g
    Gelatin 50g
    Almonds 50g
    Coconut Oil (MCT) 25g
    Honey 25g
    Creatine 8g
    Taurine 8g
    Beta Alanine 4g
    Betaine (TMG) 4g
    Carnitine 4g
    Choline Bitartrate 4g
    ==Dinner (20pm)==
    Eggs 100g (2 eggs)
    Black Pepper 4g
    Multivitamin 4g
    Omega-3 1g
    R-Alpha Lipic Acid 400mg
    Quercetin 400mg
    Ginkgo Biloba 400mg
    CoQ10 200mg
    Resveratrol 200mg
    Telmisartan 80mg
    ==Before bed (23h)==
    Magnesium Citrate 400mg
    Dopa Mucuna 120mg
    Melatonin 3mg
    Ketotifen 2mg
    Oxandrolone 15mg
    Testosterone 100mg

    Will be possible to drop my weight from 210lbs 10% bf to 180 lbs 5% bf? Comments on diet, suppl, steroids are welcome.

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    yes but i think you vould hope for 190 5% instead of 180...

    if you truly are 10% at 210pounds if you dont lose much muscle you could expect 190/5% but its useless to drop that low cause it may be ****ing hard to maintain... just my opinion...

    your training is a brosplit traditionnal which I personnaly think it sucks...

    you use a shit load of suplement I dont think a quarter of these are really usefull...

    you can taper up clen faster, normally I do: 40-60-80-80-80-100(days 1-2-3-4-5-6-7)
    Last edited by qscgugcsq; 11-15-2014 at 08:51 AM.

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    400mg of caffeine and clen for breakfast, with a diet largely consisting of random supps and barely any food? No...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    400mg of caffeine and clen for breakfast, with a diet largely consisting of random supps and barely any food? No...
    good call havent noticed his caffeine intake...

    400mg + 100mcg clen = shit.load of problem ... just dont mix both...

    ive mixed 200mgof caff in the evening with 60mcg clen.in the morning and I was shaking real bad... my heart was racing and I was sweating more than on 700mg of tren ...

    dont mix both...

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    I will drop the caffeine. Ty. I will save it for PCT.

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