Give me a goal

**AllKindsOGains** · 11-19-2014, 02:04 PM

It has been made very clear to me by very experienced and informed people that I am not yet ready for gear. That being said, 6 years is a long time to wait. Maybe you guys have some ideas for a goal for me to reach as far as my physique (weight, level of build) that once I met, would "earn" me the rite, so to speak. Because this would take time, it would meet the waiting criteria that is necessary being as how I am too young. But rather than 6 years, maybe it would be possible to have that brought down a few. I am serious about wanting to do this, but understand it is not to be taken lightly, and is a life altering decision. Give me a goal to reach, and I guarantee I will work as hard as I can to reach it. Bodybuilding is my greatest passion, and I am willing to work. If you guys are interested in volunteering some ideas, I will provide some pics and stats. Thanks for you consideration!

**Khazima** · 11-19-2014, 03:02 PM

185 @ 10% BF is a rough estimate of your natural potential at your height and with your frame.

It's not necessarily the development of your physique you're waiting for, it's the development of your HPTA and waiting for your hormones to reach homeostasis.

**Juced_porkchop** · 11-19-2014, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Khazima

185 @ 10% BF is a rough estimate of your natural potential at your height and with your frame.

It's not necessarily the development of your physique you're waiting for, it's the development of your HPTA and waiting for your hormones to reach homeostasis.

^^^^ This

Its development of systems AND exp with lifting. but at a younger age the systems should be the main concern IMO

**AllKindsOGains** · 11-19-2014, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

^^^^ This

Its development of systems AND exp with lifting. but at a younger age the systems should be the main concern IMO

I understand the hormone point. With that said, is 25 really how old I have to be? I have been training 4 years, bodybuilding specifically for over 3. Khazima: would reaching this be a good first step at least?

**Khazima** · 11-19-2014, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by AllKindsOGains

I understand the hormone point. With that said, is 25 really how old I have to be? I have been training 4 years, bodybuilding specifically for over 3. Khazima: would reaching this be a good first step at least?

It's not my place to give you advice on how to tip toe towards cycling young as I'm only 20 with no cycle experience. I'd just suggest taking the advice from the wealth of knowledge on this forum and come to terms with waiting.

I have read that a good way to know if your HPTA is finished developing is by getting regular blood tests. This could indicate you've reach homeostasis.

Anyone please correct me if this is misinformation.