1st Cycle and HRT

**TheTaxMan** · 09-08-2015, 12:34 PM

Looking forward to your deca log Rhoag! (If your keeping one that is)

@tec - dont you feel after every cycle you have to adapt to normal? Its been that for all 3 of my cycles (test, test/deca, test)

**tectime** · 09-08-2015, 12:59 PM

Hey Steve ! Not so much as after tren . I never stop the tes /deca just adjust doses so as long as I keep the tes high enough I'm good. No lose of motivation, no hitch just another day in paradise. After tren it tends to knock me down a notch for a couple of weeks. Could be I just need the rest hahaha tren turns me even more to the extreme.

**jaysath** · 09-08-2015, 01:24 PM

Nice man you out a lot of time into this. I just don't like the idea of having everything so set in stone I'm a believe r n training by listening to your body or is this a guideline?

**bethdoth** · 09-10-2015, 09:51 AM

tectime,
Yes the tren kicked my a$$ for about 2 weeks, I was depressed and ready to get a divorce. I feel that if there are any problems in your life tren will amplify them in your mind.
jaysath,
IMHO a person should have a good plan and then stick with it to the end. If you research and decide on a tren/test cycle with caber, stane, cia, hcg etc etc.... and decide on a dose. Follow through, get labs, see the results, see/feel all the sides. Then adjust your next cycle. That is unless you had a bad plan (didn't purchase what was needed) or sides get to terrible, then I would say adjust down during a cycle or stop. I am no expert I have only done one cycle and HRT for about 4 years now. This is just my regimented military style of thinking.

**tectime** · 09-10-2015, 10:35 AM

Hey rhoag yes same for me everytime tren is involved. For about two wks for me is just about half my normal go. Never made me think about divorce but def amplifies any weird emotional bullshit. And the trouble getting a nut is a bitch after so long. Oh and you bet never start anything without all the components.

**tectime** · 09-10-2015, 10:49 AM

Had to finish eating real quick but right and the military mindset. Without discipline where are we at and what would we be. A bunch of ****ing monkeys!

**bethdoth** · 09-10-2015, 06:20 PM

I sure hope deca has the same effect on my libido as tren did. I was always ready to go.

**JdFlex** · 09-10-2015, 06:38 PM

Some people rave about tren but not me. Would not recommend it. To each their own. Good luck.

**tectime** · 09-10-2015, 10:53 PM

Deca should /will do the trick just keep an eye on your estrogen. Even though deca doesn't ato much. I hear ya about the other half needing to stay active and " keeping up "with the tes sex monster. For me I married a little gal about 6 yrs younger and hotter than **** ! Been hooked 27 yrs and she's a little gym rat herself so Thank God. She even stays on me to go to the gym, to eat this, to do that, like I need any encouragement but it cool. Plus man at our age isn't it cool. Oh yea !

**TheTaxMan** · 09-11-2015, 02:36 AM

My partners 4 years younger than me and is a fitness freak too, shes always telling me i need to do more cardio, improve my technique, not touch a beer etc lol its great but sometimes i think 'will you just stfu lol'

**bethdoth** · 09-14-2015, 08:57 AM

Ok I said I would post a pic Post cycle. It has been 6.5 weeks since my cycle ended. I have been trying to drop some bodyfat before my next cycle. Still waiting for my lab results from last week. Things are going ok. I would still like to drop about 2 % more bodyfat, but I have till mid October. I feel I have kept most of my gains so far. Like I said the fullness and hardness are not quite as good but hey i am happy for now.

**TheTaxMan** · 09-14-2015, 09:56 AM

Looking fantastic mate, well done on holding the gains

**tectime** · 09-14-2015, 01:42 PM

Hey man looking good ! Looks like you are holding gains very well!

**bethdoth** · 09-14-2015, 04:25 PM

I don't know if 6 and a half weeks is enough time to tell. I have about 4 weeks and if everything is good I am going to start a deca test cycle.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 09-14-2015, 07:11 PM

I would at least follow the time on equals time off rule.
How long was your blast?

**NACH3** · 09-15-2015, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by rhoag

Ok I said I would post a pic Post cycle. It has been 6.5 weeks since my cycle ended. I have been trying to drop some bodyfat before my next cycle. Still waiting for my lab results from last week. Things are going ok. I would still like to drop about 2 % more bodyfat, but I have till mid October. I feel I have kept most of my gains so far. Like I said the fullness and hardness are not quite as good but hey i am happy for now.

You look great man! Nice arms(tris nice and full - bis got the width)

One thing I wanted to mention - do you like long esters or short esters? B/c NPP is great and it's fast acting - same compound shorter ester!

**bethdoth** · 09-21-2015, 08:46 AM

Sorry for the delayed response was off the grid at a Woodstock camping adventure.
I will be doing more time off than I was on, also I am still waiting the results from my lab work...VA is slow.
It's to late Nach it will be the long ester. I have never tried the long ester, but want to because injections are less frequent. I plan to pin every 3.5d right along with my test CYP. My only concern is if you get bad sides, it takes longer to clear your system when you stop. But, my research indicates sides are not as bad with Deca as they are with tren . Do you feel the overall gains are less with a long ester or just take longer to come?