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    Gyno

    It's my 3de week cycle of 600 test enanthate /w
    40mg Diana I' m getting a great result
    But I start feeling my nepels heart when I touch them
    I have aromasin 25mg and Nolvadex 20mg
    What do you suggest me for taking and how long

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    I don't understand what you typed. If you intended to say that your nipples are sensitive, that is not gynecomastia . You should be using aromasin , not just have it on hand.
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    Some people use Epistane for gyno symptoms. But still you are not having gyno yet. Use AIs and estrogen blockers such as Arimidex , Aromasin , Nolvadex , Clomid,... so you can stop the development of gyno.

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    Start the aromasin . As Austin said you should be managing your e2 on cycle from the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    I don't understand what you typed. If you intended to say that your nipples are sensitive, that is not gynecomastia. You should be using aromasin, not just have it on hand.
    It's not my nipples that hurt but I feel something hard under them I started Nolvadex at 10 ed I will see what gonna do

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    Quote Originally Posted by x-generic View Post
    It's not my nipples that hurt but I feel something hard under them I started Nolvadex at 10 ed I will see what gonna do
    So you ask a question, get advice, and do what you want in the end? Nolvadex is not going to do anything for controlling your estrogen. If you're starting to feel a lump in your nipple then your e2 could be elevated. You want to bring your e2 down and manage it.
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    Ok I understand
    I have Exemestan 25mg can I take 25mg eod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I don't understand what you typed. If you intended to say that your nipples are sensitive, that is not gynecomastia. You should be using aromasin, not just have it on hand.
    Hey I infact am expirencing very minor sensitivity in my right nipple. Should I take Armidex (I have on hand) or wait for an order of aromasin ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownredneck View Post
    Hey I infact am expirencing very minor sensitivity in my right nipple. Should I take Armidex (I have on hand) or wait for an order of aromasin ?

    Thank you
    If your running a cycle then you SHOULD ALWAYS use a AI so if you are then start your adex the now. Start of at .25 eod.

    Op aromasin should be used ed not eod 12.5mg to 25mg gyno starts of a little pea size lump under/back of the nipple start your ai now and use 20mg of nolva ed as well till it goes away only if it IS a lump though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    If your running a cycle then you SHOULD ALWAYS use a AI so if you are then start your adex the now. Start of at .25 eod.

    Op aromasin should be used ed not eod 12.5mg to 25mg gyno starts of a little pea size lump under/back of the nipple start your ai now and use 20mg of nolva ed as well till it goes away only if it IS a lump though.
    This is on point. Id listen to it and start the adex at the suggested dosage.

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    I don't know how long you've been Doin AAS ... & I see your quite new, But you've gotten advice from 2: 1. VET(jimmyinkedup)& and an 2. HRT SPECIALIST(Austenite)! Two of the top 5 most respected people on this forum, and yet in the end it seems as if you still don't want to hear the correct answer!

    Yet people wonder why they may get Gyno... Or Sides period(without an AI)

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    Hi Guys, I have the hard nipple issue... I just want to check something please, im running a cycle currently 4 weeks in and want to confirm that I should take 25mg tablet ed of aromasin and 20mg tablet each day nolva to get rid of this lump? Shall I take for the full 30 days or is it only for a certain period of time?

    Thanks in advance..

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    I am splitting mine into 12.5mg every 12 hours, that might be a high dose for you, not sure what your stats are. I am a big guy (270+) and have a very severe case of gyno that I am trying to clear up. I am also taking 60mg nolva dex daily, 20mg every 8 hours. You should have been taking the aromasin from the beginning. Try 25mg every other day and 20mg nolva daily and see how it feels after a week or so.
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    Thank you for the advice Zempey, I have managed to finally get hold of the Aromasin and Nolva and they will be with me by tomorrow. Regrettably I have made some major errors taking aas on the advice of someone who obviously hasn't got a clue or just doesn't give a shit. Either way, I am now on the right track to sort things now and for the future. I just want to ask, once I have cleared the nipple issue up, how often should I be taking Aromasin whilst running a cycle, is it everyday or every couple of days or even something else?

    Nipple is pretty sure at the moment and the lump as definitely increased over the last week, typically how long should it take for things to normalise again? Im a 35 y/o male, 184lbs if this helps at all and knowing this is the dosage you recommended above right for me still?

    Thank again all for reading and advice..

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    Just a brief update, taken 20mg (1 tablet) Nolva today and 25mg (1 tablet) Aromasin . I plan to keep on with the Aromasin each day for the duration of my cycle and will keep taking the Nolva subject to any changes in the lump sizes in my nipples, hopefully this is the correct method?

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    Maybe try aromasin every other day at 25mg and see if you need to up it. It will take some time for the lumps to go down, so be patient. You don't want to crash your e2 just bring it down to an acceptable range. Continue with the nolva everyday and aromasin eod for the duration of your cycle, you should start to see some changes in a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zempey View Post
    Maybe try aromasin every other day at 25mg and see if you need to up it. It will take some time for the lumps to go down, so be patient. You don't want to crash your e2 just bring it down to an acceptable range. Continue with the nolva everyday and aromasin eod for the duration of your cycle, you should start to see some changes in a few weeks.
    Thank you for your advice Zempey, I will know better for next time.. Lots of different information and point of views on this forum as to how often you should take aromasin , some argue 25mg per day other say every other day. I will go with what you say and just see how things go however long it takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zempey View Post
    Maybe try aromasin every other day at 25mg and see if you need to up it. It will take some time for the lumps to go down, so be patient. You don't want to crash your e2 just bring it down to an acceptable range. Continue with the nolva everyday and aromasin eod for the duration of your cycle, you should start to see some changes in a few weeks.
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    Thank you for your advice Zempey, I will know better for next time.. Lots of different information and point of views on this forum as to how often you should take aromasin, some argue 25mg per day other say every other day. I will go with what you say and just see how things go however long it takes.
    The info is not really different in black and white b/c like Zempy stated it takes a while for someone who's just starting out w/juice to really find their sweetspot for their E2!

    With that said the other members know how their body reacts to the compounds and can tell when to bump their doses(AI) up... As far as taking exemestane it should be taken daily! If you think 12.5mg once a day is enough then start there but keep a close eye on how you feel(and get your mid cycle BW done so you know where your E2 is at then you will know if you need 25mgs ed(but split up 12 hrs) and take w/fat as it helps absorb Stane...

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    I will take all advice offered, I have to say though the aromasin I have is tiny little pills which are 25mg and will be near on impossible to split without complete breakage so I feel the only option I have is to take the full 25g tablet each day or each other day to counteract that I should take 12.5 mg each day, hope that makes sense.

    I'm not new to juicing, just new to doing it the right way. What fat would you recommend, do you mean like nuts? Been looking into blood work today, not sure where you are based but I am in the UK and although I am willing to pay the cost is about £130 each time, is this about right?

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    I found the aromasin to be milder than the arimidex , I was taking the aromasin at 12.5mg every 12 hours but I think it tanked my e2, but that is what I was trying to do to get a handle on my severe gyno. When I switched over to adex at 1mg daily I got a headache right away and i just felt more sore so I backed it off to .5mg daily. You can try it at 25mg a day, also try using a pill cutter, might make it easier to split the small pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zempey View Post
    I found the aromasin to be milder than the arimidex, I was taking the aromasin at 12.5mg every 12 hours but I think it tanked my e2, but that is what I was trying to do to get a handle on my severe gyno. When I switched over to adex at 1mg daily I got a headache right away and i just felt more sore so I backed it off to .5mg daily. You can try it at 25mg a day, also try using a pill cutter, might make it easier to split the small pills.
    Stane is def milder than adex without a doubt. Its also harder to tank your e2 with stane, much harder. People not taking any steroids were taking 25 and 50mg satne/day. While the e2 was lowered in a dose dependent fashion even those taking 50mg/day had e2 levels within the clinical range. they weere at the bottom of the clinical range, but still within the clinical range. The thing with stane is the way it works it really almost doesnt matter as much if you ARE taking exogenous test, the e2 lowering effect will remain the same as it renders the aromatase useless permanently indicating e2 levels will be what they will be almost regardless of what the T levels are (within reason of course).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup
    Stane is def milder than adex without a doubt. Its also harder to tank your e2 with stane, much harder. People not taking any steroids were taking 25 and 50mg satne/day. While the e2 was lowered in a dose dependent fashion even those taking 50mg/day had e2 levels within the clinical range. they weere at the bottom of the clinical range, but still within the clinical range. The thing with stane is the way it works it really almost doesnt matter as much if you ARE taking exogenous test, the e2 lowering effect will remain the same as it renders the aromatase useless permanently indicating e2 levels will be what they will be almost regardless of what the T levels are (within reason of course).
    good explanation. Thanks for this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    Stane is def milder than adex without a doubt. Its also harder to tank your e2 with stane, much harder. People not taking any steroids were taking 25 and 50mg satne/day. While the e2 was lowered in a dose dependent fashion even those taking 50mg/day had e2 levels within the clinical range. they weere at the bottom of the clinical range, but still within the clinical range. The thing with stane is the way it works it really almost doesnt matter as much if you ARE taking exogenous test, the e2 lowering effect will remain the same as it renders the aromatase useless permanently indicating e2 levels will be what they will be almost regardless of what the T levels are (within reason of course).
    I just switched from Stane to Dex... And Stane is much more mild... As dex can lower E2 lecels by 70% in a single dose! I find dex to balance me out more... Though it's difficult to tank your E2 w/Stane b/c its a suicidal AI(like a kamikaze fighter jet hitting the Aromatase enzymes rendering them useless... A dex breaks them up at a high rate but they can bind back to the aromatiseable enzyme time after time.... But is done more rapidly...

    But dex is way more potent... Hope this helps too fellas!
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    I guess that is why I never got the headaches and joint pains like I do on too much dex. For a while I was at 12.5mg every 8 hours trying to bring my e2 down, then went to 12 hours and stayed there until I ran out.

    I have been taking .5mg once a day of dex along with 40mg of nolva, is this combo good for keeping e2 down and shrinking gyno lumps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zempey View Post
    I have been taking .5mg once a day of dex along with 40mg of nolva, is this combo good for keeping e2 down and shrinking gyno lumps?
    Yes it is. Its a good protocol for e2 management while treating gyno at the same time.

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    Thanks jimmy, was pretty sure I was good, but it is nice to have conformation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    Start the aromasin. As Austin said you should be managing your e2 on cycle from the start.
    Agreed,,,if people would only even use a small amount the whole duration of there
    cycle,,,sides like gyno wouldn't rear its ugly head.

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    Quick update guys, I have been taking the 25mg & 25mg daily now for the last 15 days, the lump in my left nipple has reduced considerably and is sat it appears just outside of the nipple ring bit (couldn't remember the official name lol). The lump in the right nipple as also reduced but just not as much as the let side. I am more than happy to continue to take stuff but just wanted to ask how long really should I stay on the N for? I have 7 weeks of my cycle to run.

    Sorry for the missing names, I got a spam warning saying that I couldn't type names of substances etc etc but you should be able to see what I have been taking from posts above.

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    Stay on the nolvadex throughout pct, I am still on my nolvadex and will continue until I feel that the lumps are a small as they will get.

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    Thank you for the reply, do you mean keep using Nolva rest of cycle and obviously in pct Zempey? Shall I still keep taking the same dosage everyday or can this be every couple of days?

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    Yes continue, I have been on 40mg daily for months now as a precaution. I would continue with the dose you are on unless one of the gurus come on and tell you otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zempey View Post
    Yes continue, I have been on 40mg daily for months now as a precaution. I would continue with the dose you are on unless one of the gurus come on and tell you otherwise.
    Thank you for the advice Zempey, Ill continue with it...

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