nandralone Vs trenbolone

**jolter604** · 05-21-2015, 06:31 PM

I was about to start a cycle with npp included, but next year I was going to include tren in it. I have heard alot of mixed reviews. Does anybody have any feedback on there sides and gains.

**Buster Brown** · 05-21-2015, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

I was about to start a cycle with npp included, but next year I was going to include tren in it. I have heard alot of mixed reviews. Does anybody have any feedback on there sides and gains.

I think tren is hands down the best compound out there. I have tried NPP and I just don't think it measures up. I also waited along time to cycle Tren having many cycles under my belt. I have used both ace and enanthate and love them both . The sides can be tough and not everyone experiences the sides the same. I can't even say I get the exact same sides each time. Pound for pound tes/tren is tough to beat.....at any ratio!

**jolter604** · 05-21-2015, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

I think tren is hands down the best compound out there. I have tried NPP and I just don't think it measures up. I also waited along time to cycle Tren having many cycles under my belt. I have used both ace and enanthate and love them both . The sides can be tough and not everyone experiences the sides the same. I can't even say I get the exact same sides each time. Pound for pound tes/tren is tough to beat.....at any ratio!

Would you stack anavar or anadrol with it or dbol ?

**Buster Brown** · 05-21-2015, 06:52 PM

Anyone of them can be good choices depending on what your cycle goals are.

**jolter604** · 05-21-2015, 07:05 PM

Size and shreds, nothing but shreds and veins and size.

**Ashop** · 05-21-2015, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

I was about to start a cycle with npp included, but next year I was going to include tren in it. I have heard alot of mixed reviews. Does anybody have any feedback on there sides and gains.

NPP is a great AAS but TREN is probably the best AAS ever developed IMO.

**jolter604** · 05-21-2015, 07:17 PM

I think I'm going to go for a cut mix. Test p 100 mg, tren 100 mg, masteron 100 mg.

**Buster Brown** · 05-21-2015, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

I think I'm going to go for a cut mix. Test p 100 mg, tren 100 mg, masteron 100 mg.

Gonna stop you in your tracks......mixs suck. Use the individual compounds, that way adjustments are easier.

**jolter604** · 05-21-2015, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

Gonna stop you in your tracks......mixs suck. Use the individual compounds, that way adjustments are easier.

Yeah that sounds right, ty.

**Sgt. Hartman** · 05-21-2015, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

Size and shreds, nothing but shreds and veins and size.

Lol I think you need to do a lot more reading and training and reevaluate your goals.

**CJWhy** · 05-21-2015, 08:55 PM

Im about to run npp and tren a with low test to manage sides

**jolter604** · 05-21-2015, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

Lol I think you need to do a lot more reading and training and reevaluate your goals.

On a serious note I am going for solid gains that have less bloat, and love the avatar.

**< <Samson> >** · 05-22-2015, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by jolter604

I think I'm going to go for a cut mix. Test p 100 mg, tren 100 mg, masteron 100 mg.

I think I have ran a gallon of this combo

It def works, but it's still no magic formula. I like adding the mast to combat DHT and estro sides while on tren . I won't run tren alone without mast added.

As far as pills - they aren't too necessary

**NACH3** · 05-22-2015, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by jolter604

I think I'm going to go for a cut mix. Test p 100 mg, tren 100 mg, masteron 100 mg.

It's the one cut stack I've tried - had to abort b/c of titrating the Tren (couldn't do it - right or the way I wanted) so I'd have to agree w/Buster on this...

Now if you were more experienced w/Tren and its doses you'd probly not have a problem.... Just my .02...

**jstone** · 05-22-2015, 09:11 AM

I jumped on tren a way earlier than I should have, but I guess im a lucky one. The sides are very minimal, and tren is great. Controlling sides has been a challenge, but I think that was because of some really bad letro. Since I started my pharm grade adex, things seem fine. It is a little early for bloodwork. I have gained about 7 pounds, and dropped some bodyfat. The most amazing part is the strength gain. Ever since my back sugery I have been very week. Im still not lifting heavy, but lifts have gone up by at least 50% all around. Im also starting to look like I have been in a gym once or twice, where before I was just looking like a slob.

The aggression is something I have to constantly watch. Saturday will be 3 weeks in, and it seams like the sides accumulate. So in another 3 weeks im not sure how I will feel.

**jolter604** · 05-22-2015, 03:44 PM

I might run 6 weeks test and npp then switch the npp for tren at the end. For a dryer look.

**NACH3** · 05-22-2015, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

I might run 6 weeks test and npp then switch the npp for tren at the end. For a dryer look.

You won't get everything outta the NPP - try one or the other - if Tren go w/it for a whole cycle - if you never ran a 19nor then I'd go w/Nandrolone first(NPP short ester)

**jolter604** · 05-22-2015, 03:55 PM

I have run deca before and I am running npp next month, but I always get everything I need way ahead of running a cycle. This is for next summer. I have aas ocd.....

**Buster Brown** · 05-22-2015, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

I might run 6 weeks test and npp then switch the npp for tren at the end. For a dryer look.

Pick one or the other! If you are going to step up and do tren then stick with it. Changing compounds for a dryer look? You must have read that because tren alone won't give you that. As I have said before One cycle at a time!

**jolter604** · 05-22-2015, 03:59 PM

Next year I am going for tren ace. Low dose of test ,six to eight weeks.

**NACH3** · 05-22-2015, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

Pick one or the other!

Exactly!

**jolter604** · 08-30-2015, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by jolter604

I was about to start a cycle with npp included, but next year I was going to include tren in it. I have heard alot of mixed reviews. Does anybody have any feedback on there sides and gains.

OK now I can answer my own question, without a doubt hands down trenbolone would be my first choice.

**mark woods** · 08-30-2015, 09:13 AM

Personally I like the whole idea of running tren A for 4/5 weeks then switch to npp or an oral it's exactly what I'm doing right now...lots of people run 2 and 3 or maybe 4 compounds together and not really know what's doing what so this way you know what's causing everything..sides included.

**mark woods** · 08-30-2015, 09:14 AM

Btw I love tren !

**AR's King Silabolin** · 08-30-2015, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by jolter604

I was about to start a cycle with npp included, but next year I was going to include tren in it. I have heard alot of mixed reviews. Does anybody have any feedback on there sides and gains.

Arent you already in a heavy ass 18 weeks test tren npp and oral cycle?

**OutThere** · 08-30-2015, 11:34 AM

Tren / test / drol is the perfect bulking stack. Tren / test / anavar or Tren / test / halo or Tren / test / winny are all good for the end of a bulking cycle. You don't need much else.

**free_at_last** · 08-30-2015, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by jolter604

OK now I can answer my own question, without a doubt hands down trenbolone would be my first choice.

so we now have another tren -lover!! welcome to the dark side, bro.

**NACH3** · 08-30-2015, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by OutThere

Tren / test / drol is the perfect bulking stack. Tren / test / anavar or Tren / test / halo or Tren / test / winny are all good for the end of a bulking cycle. You don't need much else.

You listed 6 compounds lol - I bet you'd get the results you were looking for - on a serious note - I agree w/letting the compound do its thing(I personally love Test so high(er) test stacked w/either nandrolone /or tren a... Pulse an oral like drol or d-Bol -

Plus it's not all about the compounds one uses(sure it helps) - but our diet/& training will dictate ones gains - if diet/training and consistency is on point - no reason for water retention or fat gain -

**tice1212** · 08-30-2015, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Plus it's not all about the compounds one uses(sure it helps) - but our diet/& training will dictate ones gains - if diet/training and consistency is on point - no reason for water retention or fat gain -

This is the truth.. Yes gear will help u get where u want to be but the key is ur pct/training/nutrition. because once u get off of the gear ur body will go back to the same shape as before. So make sure ur sh*t is in line bro.

**jolter604** · 08-30-2015, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Arent you already in a heavy ass 18 weeks test tren npp and oral cycle?

Yes I was going to run my test e for 18 weeks and I had 10 weeks of npp, but decided to add the tren ave because I had already gotten 10 weeks of tren ace. So I ran it to see if I could even handle the sides. So far only not sleeping threw the night was my only side. I have that under control Now. I know diet plays a big part but I am liking the dryer bulking I get from the tren, as well as my wife.

**212OlympiaBound** · 08-30-2015, 10:30 PM

In my experience high tren + moderate test + a dbol bump is the best cycle that exists. something about tren + dbol.

I do like my npp at times, however. I just run like 6mL tren ace a week. 2mL test and a dbol tab post workout