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08-20-2015, 07:30 AM #1New Member
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Second cycle - TEST E & EQ - 14 WEEKS?
Hi guys
This will be my second cycle after doing this dumb oral only. Did Anavar 60mg for 5 weeks with 3 weeks of nolvadex . Had my macros in check and was on my maintain levels.. Went up about 4kg on the cycle but when the cycle finished and I went down and only kept about 2kg... Under pct i wast eating around 500 kcal more than on cycle. IT has now gone 5 months and I want to do another cycle inclouding Test Enethat and EQ. I know a lot of you guys will say stick to test it will be better then you know what drug couses the side effects etc etc but If I would do this cycle I have some options I would like to get some help on....
My main goal from this cycle is to keep as much muscle mass as possible after my pct. I want to incloud both HC Generate, Nolvadex and Clomid as well as my diet will be tracked and my training will be spot on during pct. High intensy 4 times per week with heavy weights...
Was thinking of running a total of 14 weeks as EQ starts to kick in slow. I will finish my eq at week 13 so both the test and eq clear out of my system at the same time for my PCT.
So here it is option 1:
- 500mg test enethat
- 400mg Eq
- Arimadex - but i dont know how often?
- HC Generate - Should I use it during mid cycle and trough my pct? or 10 days out from my last test injection?
Option 2
- 250mg Test enethat
- 600mg EQ
- Arimadex
Option 3
-300mg test enethat
-500mg EQ
Option 4
-200mg test enethat
-600mg EQ
PCT:
clomid-100/50/50/50 and nolva 40/20/20/20 ?
What do you guys recommend for lean keepable gains? I dont want to blow up and get all this water retention and acne.. I know arimadex will help me with that. I am not 100% sure when to run my hc generate so any help would be good guys. Sorry for my bad english btw Im from Brazil
STATS:
Age: 23
Heigh: 177
Weight: 79
BF: 10%
Training: 6 years - 2 years with a strict diet tracking my macros every day.
My main questions is if Hc Generate alone will be ok? or should i abselute inject real hcg during my cycle or just under my pct?
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08-21-2015, 07:16 AM #2Junior Member
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Hello mate,
At 23 I think you should not start juicing yet, you are at your peak! I'm not your dad, so you will do whatever you want, but if you can then wait until u r 25.
Stats are not bad at all, but you still should have room for gains naturally.
If you do go ahead though:
Do blood work now and at week 7-8
Have aromosin or arimidex 0.25 ed usually good to keep e2 in check but mid cycle blood work is the best way to figure it out.
Have Nolva/ Tamoxifen and I would actually run it 20mcg/day on cycle on rather safe than sorry basis, it prevents gyno.
HCG : I am not the best person to give advice on it, there's a stocked article somewhere here about. (Basically I don't really use it as I follow the medical recommendations for trt instead, but at this age you defo need them balls big, so you might need to run it on cycle too).
PCT: hcg+
Clomid50, nolva40 for a week, then 25/20 for 3 subsequent weeks and you should be fine.
Hope this helps mate!
Cheers, Matt
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