First proper cycle - compound advise

[nate_nate]

Chaps,

Stats first of all - I am 23 years old, 5ft,11 Have been lifting for 6/7 years now, am sitting at around 25%bf at 15 and a half stone (217lbs ish). After much deliberating I have decided that i am ready for my first proper cycle.

I have with me enough test 300 (e) to see me through a 12 week cycle at 600mg a week (300mg both sunday and thursday). I also have enough dbol -methandrostenolone to see me through a 6 week course at 30mg daily.

I would like to know for someone who is inexperienced with gear is it a good idea for me to stack at this early stage or should i just take the test by itself for now? Ill be honest i am not hugely confident with jabbing as i have obviously never done it; i am familiar with the theory behind it but in practise i would imagine it is pretty tricky - daunting. What does appeal most to me is doing just dbol, however, i dont want to pee out all the gains i make so that, as well as the hounding this idea receives over the internet is enough for me to disregard that idea (i think).

I know that dbol shuts you down pretty hard and i have read that one of the reasons you should stack test with dbol is because instead of being shut down completely your natty test levels will just be suppressed (not shut down entirely). Is this true? It doesnt make much logical sense to me.

I could do one of three things;

run just test at 600mg a week (having to learn how to jab properly first, how would i even do this?)
run test and dbol (seems like the most sensible but as above, jabbing)
or run just dbol at 30mg a day for six weeks.

I am familiar with the pcts i would have to do and what i should have on hand in case of gyno etc. I should also add that i am not too fussed about my higher than ideal fat %, I will deal with the fat i hold when i am happy with my size.

Could you guys tell me what would be best to do and explain why you think?
Thanks!

*i have done an anavar only cycle before - I did it because I was curious about aas and wanted to know what it was like. As expected as soon as i came off i lost most of what i gained (i only really gained strength too, no physical, noticeable gains)

[Nine91]

Honestly I would do more research and focus on training and diet. Read aunstinites thread for first successful cycle located in the stickies. There you will find all the info you will need. But to directly reply to your post: Drop to at least 15% bf before you start. Run only test, recommended does is 500mg/wk Also what do you have for AI? What is your pct? Also on ster*od. Com there are videos to show you all you need to know about injections. Trust me you get used to it. I personally look forward to it, I am weird and enjoy needles And 23 is said to be too young to start as because at that age the endocrine system is still under development. On this forum we genuinely care about your health and only offer the safest route. In no way am I or others trying to bring you down. Thanks for asking questions, please read the sticky written by Austenite.

Edit* I looked at your profile and it says 20? No need to lie to us! We only want to help

[Splifton]

Your 23 and you have no understanding of the HPTA let alone how the male endocrine system regulates it's homeostatic mechanisms. You have a very unfavorable quantity of adipose tissue which tells us that you have a higher expression of your aromatase. You begin exogenously introducing anabolic /androgenic steroids into your system you have a higher probability of excessive aromatization. (Testosterone >Estradiol) You can't eat properly right now then once you go on cycle your body has a tendency to become overly efficient in it's nutrient utilization due to the dramatic spike in muscle protein synthesis. You eat a terrible meal let's say an extremely salty frozen pizza and you can watch your blood pressure go through the roof.

It's not a smart gamble, but the choice is yours.

EDIT: Wait I just read the part about claiming his curiosity of AAS lead him to fulfilling that interest with an oxandrolone only cycle....

[OdinsOtherSon]

I could do one of three things;

Let's make that four,

4) STOP what you're doing and read The young and Steroids

[73rr]

^^^ second that

[nate_nate]

i have no idea why it says that i genuinely am 23 haha. August '92

cheers for the help!

[nate_nate]

Edit* I looked at your profile and it says 20? No need to lie to us! We only want to help

Cheers for the helpful reply. I have no idea why it says i am 20 though - im genuinely 23 years old haha. August '92.