2nd cycle low test high deca

[Althenery]

Week 1-13 test e 250 mg ew
Week 1-12 deca 500 mg ew
Pct hcg clomin and nolvadex .
I also have caber on hand.
Im 6,1 196lbs 14% body fat 22 years old training 3 years. Started at 140 lbs my heaviest was 210 15% body fat 6 months ago, was out of the gym for 3 months due to work injure.
My first proper cycle was tren /test .
I used test before but without pct.
I want to try low dose test for less side effects. Any advice

[TheTaxMan]

Test no pct
Test/tren
Now test/deca

Your only 22 i wouldnt be cycling if i was your age, the risks of permanently screwing yourself up is too high, wait until your 25 to ensure everything is fully developed and mature.

[itsjayman02]

Week 1-13 test e 250 mg ew
Week 1-12 deca 500 mg ew
Pct hcg clomin and nolvadex .
I also have caber on hand.
Im 6,1 196lbs 14% body fat 22 years old tra



ining 3 years. Started at 140 lbs my heaviest was 210 15% body fat 6 months ago, was out of the gym for 3 months due to work injure.
My first proper cycle was tren /test .
I used test before but without pct.
I want to try low dose test for less side effects. Any advice

post in 10 years let us know how you are

[fxrjuiceman]

Test no pct Test/tren Now test/deca Your only 22 i wouldnt be cycling if i was your age, the risks of permanently screwing yourself up is too high, wait until your 25 to ensure everything is fully developed and mature.

For real bro you've already used the strongest compounds and your only 22 could we get a pic you must be swole as fuuuuuck.

[fxrjuiceman]

Also I'd definitely wouldn't just start taking Deca and test after not going to the gym for 3 months that=injury. Get back into the gym for a wile and prime your body don't just throw it juice and go hard

[Althenery]

When i used test 300 mg a weel for 8 weeks i gained like 15 punds and keep 10 my (pct) was clomid only for 4 week but knowing what i lnow now a proper pct is hcg clomid and nolvadex . Then i did test/tren 400 mg and 300 mg for 10 weeks and I gained 25 pounds and keep 20. I got injured 6 months ago so i been working out 3 months sense my injury it was at work. I dont plan cycling for life, maybe 2 more cycles and thats it i want to live a long life.

[Althenery]

Pic

[TheTaxMan]

Looking good!

By cycling we arent saying your going to die younger you know.

Your just going to have more of a chance of needing TRT for the rest of your life, which means you have to inject test every week just to feel and function normal.

Alot of members here have cycled at a young age and have ended this way, some are lucky and dont need TRT but why take the gamble?

Your better waiting until 25 years old to minimise these chances, then do your "few more" cycle

Whats the big rush?
If your sat there thinking im doing it anyway, id atleast stick to low dose test cycles and avoid the likes of deca /tren

[fxrjuiceman]

You look in shape I thought you haven't touched weights since injury since you've been lifting.... Everyone will tell you not to "age" but I'd suggest 500mg test 2-400mg Deca For less sides or 5-600mg Deca 200-250g test For More sides and gains

[212OlympiaBound]

For real bro you've already used the strongest compounds and your only 22 could we get a pic you must be swole as fuuuuuck.

There is really no substitute for time. Steroids make you go a bit quicker, but it still takes years under the barbell.

[Althenery]

Ill go for test e 250 mg a week for 13 weeks and deca 500 mg a week for 12 weeks,Ill start a post and update it hopefully i make it to 220 with a clean bulk.

[Althenery]

Never mind
Ill be doing 250 mg test a week for 12 weeks and 600 mg deca for 10 weeks

[< <Samson> >]

Never mind Ill be doing 250 mg test a week for 12 weeks and 600 mg deca for 10 weeks

Is this the who needs a working dick cycle


Why in the hell would someone go high deca & low test


Oh well - what do I know

[Althenery]

Is this the who needs a working dick cycle Why in the hell would someone go high deca & low test Oh well - what do I know

What would be the best scenario for best gains? And why?

[bsh]

Is this the who needs a working dick cycle

Haha, so true... 500 test / 400 deca is what I've done in the past

[NACH3]

What would be the best scenario for best gains? And why?

How have you ran your test in the past compared to your other compounds?? If higher why change??

I like and I respond best when my test is higher - that's me... you can cut on deca even with high test its your nutrition and training that'll dictate what you gain...

We take all this time writing these powerhouse stacks and usually people end up where they started b/c they didn't know hosts eat to grow... This isn't directed at OP or anyone specific... I just think it's much more clear as in how much nutrition and your training will do over compounds... They sure help tho

[charger69]

I would recommend not to cycle however HCG should be used on cycle, not as pct.

[Althenery]

How have you ran your test in the past compared to your other compounds?? If higher why change?? I like and I respond best when my test is higher - that's me... you can cut on deca even with high test its your nutrition and training that'll dictate what you gain... We take all this time writing these powerhouse stacks and usually people end up where they started b/c they didn't know hosts eat to grow... This isn't directed at OP or anyone specific... I just think it's much more clear as in how much nutrition and your training will do over compounds... They sure help tho

I ran test c at 300 mg a week no sides everything perfect
Then i ran andropen 275 at 800 mg a week for 4 weeks with tren A at 300 mg a week and got some acne, then i droped the andropen and used prop instead at 300 mg a week and averything was fine, and made good gains with less sides
How would you run deca and test for less sides?

[NACH3]

I ran test c at 300 mg a week no sides everything perfect
Then i ran andropen 275 at 800 mg a week for 4 weeks with tren A at 300 mg a week and got some acne, then i droped the andropen and used prop instead at 300 mg a week and averything was fine, and made good gains with less sides
How would you run deca and test for less sides?

Keep your E2 in range and your prolactin won't follow... Your first line of defense is E2(im guessing and that is - is a guess - all it is but acne usually means higher or elevated E2 which in return running progestins your PRL(prolactin) will elevate as well... Plus,
I think you got so many sides b/c if all the different compounds and dose changes - notice how when you ran the prop(EOD im assuming) your blood levels were much more stable - you started at 300 then upped to 800 so your hormones would have been in flux much longer than they should have been if you'd had stuck with one compound at one dose throughout! Ever think of running prop or test e/& NPP it's just a shorter ester nandrolone ??

Now I can't give you an exact lay out of how to run a cycle but I'd run my test higher than my Deca - I do this b/c I know my body responds best to higher test than other compound... This is what I've done and it works well for me... Tho your young I know your going to run this - this is where you basically are experimenting to see what works best for You! Try a 1:1 500/500 or 600/400 I think either of those would be fine -

Note - I would rather you figure out how your body responds to just test as you don't or won't know where the problem is coming from if there is one .... Plus w/long esters your locked in for at least 2wks b4 they clear - DECA is 21 days... Hence the prop and NPP eod pinning but short esters and if anything were to go wrong you could pull the plug and start pct after day 4(PP) - good luck

[TheTaxMan]

Test 500 deca 400
Run:
Hcg
Da
Ai

And of course;
PCT

Sides are an effect of cycling unfortunately, and its impossible to say sho will get what sides at what dose. if you dont want any sides dont cycle.

But 500 test 400 deca seems to yield great gains for most of us, its quite a popular dose

[Althenery]

Keep your E2 in range and your prolactin won't follow... Your first line of defense is E2(im guessing and that is - is a guess - all it is but acne usually means higher or elevated E2 which in return running progestins your PRL(prolactin) will elevate as well... Plus, I think you got so many sides b/c if all the different compounds and dose changes - notice how when you ran the prop(EOD im assuming) your blood levels were much more stable - you started at 300 then upped to 800 so your hormones would have been in flux much longer than they should have been if you'd had stuck with one compound at one dose throughout! Ever think of running prop or test e/& NPP it's just a shorter ester nandrolone?? Now I can't give you an exact lay out of how to run a cycle but I'd run my test higher than my Deca - I do this b/c I know my body responds best to higher test than other compound... This is what I've done and it works well for me... Tho your young I know your going to run this - this is where you basically are experimenting to see what works best for You! Try a 1:1 500/500 or 600/400 I think either of those would be fine - Note - I would rather you figure out how your body responds to just test as you don't or won't know where the problem is coming from if there is one .... Plus w/long esters your locked in for at least 2wks b4 they clear - DECA is 21 days... Hence the prop and NPP eod pinning but short esters and if anything were to go wrong you could pull the plug and start pct after day 4(PP) - good luck

Ok man thanks for the advice
Ill be runing 500 test and 500 deca ill stop deca2 weeks before test and if everything goes perfect ill start blasting and crusing.

[fitguy]

Ok man thanks for the advice
Ill be runing 500 test and 500 deca ill stop deca2 weeks before test and if everything goes perfect ill start blasting and crusing.

You Are too young think before considering blasting and crusinig

[kelkel]

You Are too young think before considering blasting and crusinig

Exactly. It's really not smart.

[bermich]

SO MUCH WRONG with that cycle. Never take more DECA than Test. Too young. Follw the advice, you need to start the gym before getting on a cycle. It will take you about 2 months to get back to where you were naturally. So much wrong with all of this.

[bermich]

NO. Up the test, drop deca to 400. jesus

[numbat]

Too young. Period.

[bermich]

You do not need that much Deca . Try 300 mg of deca first cycle. Make sure you eat. Cant gain without 6k calories a day. You spend all that money on gear but not food and you will regret it.

[< <Samson> >]

^ what he said

When I ran deca , I did a low low dose 250mg a week of deca & 500mg a week of test

So, I'd go in a similar pattern - let's say 750mg a week of test & about 350-400mg of deca.

[Althenery]

Lets say 400 mg of deca ew and 300 mg test ew
Why would i want to try to push it with test, if im already getting the size from deca?

[bloodchoke]

Oh well - what do I know

Yeah, do you even lift, bro?