test cyp and androgel. natural test levels shut down?

**aNuBiS99** · 12-17-2015, 10:03 AM

I had some stuff left over from a past cycle and got my hands on some androgel , figured I would try it out.

I did 2 weeks of just the androgel (75gm per 2.5gm x2) and then started injecting test cyp at 100mg every 2.5days and still doing the androgel

I am due for my 4th injection today (so it'll be 2 weeks in)

I know its a low amount of test, but I am not looking for crazy gains. From what I have read, that is near double what I produce naturally anyway.

My concern is, Ive just noticed the last couple of days that my libido is gone.

I really dont want to lose my libido so I havent done the androgel today thinking maybe it was shutting me down, but I am also considering just saying screw it and stopping the test cyp too and going right to PCT in a week or two.

I have clomid and nolva.

Opinions appreciated, thanks

**73rr** · 12-17-2015, 10:35 AM

No ai (arimidex ) or hcg ?

**aNuBiS99** · 12-17-2015, 10:40 AM

Woops, ya I have 1mg caps of arimidex . Not nolva

No HCG .

**73rr** · 12-17-2015, 10:45 AM

U should be running your ai on cycle to control estrogen level Probably your problem right there.

U should be using hcg dearing cycle also. It will help in recovery

Pct should be nolva and clomid.

**aNuBiS99** · 12-17-2015, 10:50 AM

Thanks man

**73rr** · 12-17-2015, 11:02 AM

No problem anytime time. Do yourself a favor and read the sticky
(Planning and executing my first cycle plain)

Even if u have cycled before. It's a awesome sticky and will tell u pritty much everything u need to no

**Shane3** · 12-17-2015, 11:12 AM

not everyone needs an AI, and with that small amount of test arimidex is probably crushing your estrogen levels too much. most likely causing your problems. id say up your test abit and cut out the arimidex. Atleast until you need the AI

**73rr** · 12-17-2015, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Shane3

not everyone needs an AI, and with that small amount of test arimidex is probably crushing your estrogen levels too much. most likely causing your problems. id say up your test abit and cut out the arimidex. Atleast until you need the AI

From my understanding. He's not even using a Al at this time

**Shane3** · 12-17-2015, 11:20 AM

hmm, still even with his natural shutting down. he shouldn't be losing his libido especially only 2 weeks in. usually takes 4-6 weeks to crash the libido.

**aNuBiS99** · 12-17-2015, 11:38 AM

Ya I havent taken any AI yet, but I have been on the androgel for over 4 weeks now, and added test cyp just 2 weeks ago

**MrFreshmaker** · 12-17-2015, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Shane3

hmm, still even with his natural shutting down. he shouldn't be losing his libido especially only 2 weeks in. usually takes 4-6 weeks to crash the libido.

In fact he should use AI,he is 4 weeks in androgel ,i bet his estrogen is high

**73rr** · 12-17-2015, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by aNuBiS99

Ya I havent taken any AI yet, but I have been on the androgel for over 4 weeks now, and added test cyp just 2 weeks ago

Like we said, u should be on a AI

**diesel101** · 12-17-2015, 11:44 AM

Androjel is going to take a few weeks to start raising your levels.
At least with me it did anyway.

**aNuBiS99** · 12-17-2015, 12:01 PM

That is what I was thinking. I am gonna drop the androgel as of today. (I knew I was liking that new Adele song a little too much LOL)

I was only using it to front load the test cyp

Should I still start the Arimidex , at lets say .5mg

**Mr.BB** · 12-17-2015, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by aNuBiS99

I really dont want to lose my libido so I havent done the androgel today thinking maybe it was shutting me down, but I am also considering just saying screw it and stopping the test cyp too and going right to PCT in a week or two.

You are completely shut down. The moment you take testosterone your pituitary have stopped signaling (LH) to the testis to produce testosterone.

100mgs every 2.5 days is 280mgs per week, dont know how much gets absorved from the androgel , but it is safe to say you are over 300mgs per week.

What are your stats?

If you are 15% body fat or less, healthy and know what to do in the gym you might just as well follow this, and do a proper cycle as you are already shutddown.

**aNuBiS99** · 12-17-2015, 04:17 PM

Ya my estrogen is forsure through the roof. No libido, massive headache and irritability. Cold feet and hands.

Stopping the androgel today and started the arimidex

**aNuBiS99** · 12-21-2015, 03:11 PM

Dropped the androgel and feel much better

One more question since I am going to stay on the test cyp of 100mg every 2.5 days

I am 2.5 weeks into it, and I also have some anavar

Could I add the anavar and run it at the same time, or should I run the anavar later and keep using the anavar after my last test cyp injection

I was going to do this lower does of test cyp for 8 weeks and im 2.5 weeks in.

I was going to add 30mg of anavar for 4 weeks, to the test cyp

Input again appreciated. Thank you