Helios vs. Clen vs. Winny

[BeeStung]

What is everyone's thoughts and views on the most effective fat loss compounds out there between Helios, Clen , and Winny weather its oral or injectable?

[RangerDanger830]

Not a fan of any of them, I've sworn them all off. My preferred method for weight loss is calorie deficit.

[Mp859]

Helios is ALRIGHT. After about a week I started getting sore from all the pinning of it. I personally would rather use clen by itself or eca. Winny is not a fat burner. If you aren't competing, I wouldn't touch any.

[BeeStung]

can u run any of them during ur PCT?

[DSS]

can u run any of them during ur PCT?

Surely you would be looking to keep any gains made. Not lose them??im fairly sure they will lose muscle more than fat.....

[Mp859]

can u run any of them during ur PCT?

People do, but I find it counterproductive. In pct you are trying to solidify gains not lose them. Without the anabolics you will waste muscle with those drugs.

[TheTaxMan]

I think your getting carried away beestung, you just started your tren cycle, you start a thread shortly after wondering when its going to kick in

Just be patient. i dont think you need anything else brother.

[BeeStung]

I think your getting carried away beestung, you just started your tren cycle, you start a thread shortly after wondering when its going to kick in

Just be patient. i dont think you need anything else brother.

i will admit that i am very anxious to start feeling the tren but i wasnt asking about the clen and winny because i plan on adding the compounds im just trying to learn for myself i have a friend that uses winny with almost every cycle.

[Xv1d]

I'm also curious. Made a thread on clenbuterol during PCT for it's proposed anti-catabolic effect with little response. Free bump.

[DSS]

I'm also curious. Made a thread on clenbuterol during PCT for it's proposed anti-catabolic effect with little response. Free bump.

I personally cannot see clen as anti catabolic, it will just burn up the most easiest available source i.e muscle then fat. Couple with ASS yes no doubt it would help fat loss at low BF.

[ghettoboyd]

I personally cannot see clen as anti catabolic, it will just burn up the most easiest available source i.e muscle then fat. Couple with ASS yes no doubt it would help fat loss at low BF.

it was shown to be anti-catabolic at very high doses in animal studies...and will absolutely help with fat loss stacked with ASS lol....

[bigdil511]

it was shown to be anti-catabolic at very high doses in animal studies...and will absolutely help with fat loss stacked with ASS lol....

Agreed ass always helps shred bf.

[DSS]

it was shown to be anti-catabolic at very high doses in animal studies...and will absolutely help with fat loss stacked with ASS lol....

Agreed ass always helps shred bf.

Haha lethal gotta love auto correct. Shows how often I use that word lol

[Nick147]

have never used helios, orals (clenover and winstol) are good.
indeed, these are not the major compouns of cutting fat.