Sermorelin for second cyclee

**mike198** · 02-29-2016, 10:16 AM

I've got all my gear for my upcoming cycle. It will be my second ever. 35 years old, 5'8" 180, 18 years training. All my gear is doctor prescribed, and last time I ran a mere 260 mg of test and had a pretty awesome recomp, gaining about 7 lbs and shredding of fat. I have purchased sermorelin to add to the equation this time.

My question is how do I store the sermorelin until I'm ready to pin? I plan on pinning in April for 11 weeks.

Cycle will look like this
Test: 260 mg for 11 weeks. Mon 120, Thursday 140
Sermorelin dosed per doc instructions
HCG : 250 IU's tues, fri
Adex: 0.25 mg tues, fri

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 02-29-2016, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by mike198

I've got all my gear for my upcoming cycle. It will be my second ever. 35 years old, 5'8" 180, 18 years training. All my gear is doctor prescribed, and last time I ran a mere 260 mg of test and had a pretty awesome recomp, gaining about 7 lbs and shredding of fat. I have purchased sermorelin to add to the equation this time. My question is how do I store the sermorelin until I'm ready to pin? I plan on pinning in April for 11 weeks. Cycle will look like this Test: 260 mg for 11 weeks. Mon 120, Thursday 140 Sermorelin dosed per doc instructions HCG: 250 IU's tues, fri Adex: 0.25 mg tues, fri

Are you on TRT?

**mike198** · 02-29-2016, 10:25 AM

I am not on TRT. Sorry. Should have clarified that.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 02-29-2016, 10:33 AM

I would not recommend shutting down your HPTA for 260mg of test per week.
I don't think the gains outweigh the risks.

**mike198** · 02-29-2016, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

I would not recommend shutting down your HPTA for 260mg of test per week. I don't think the gains outweigh the risks.

I'm no expert, but I believe this proposed cycle is about as mild as it can get. I got a tremendous boost last time doing this, and can honestly say I got way better gains off 260 than guys in my gym running 500+. Then again, mine was human grade, and who knows where these other guys got their gear. But I think I understand your point, if I'm going to shutdown then I should make it worth my while.

**Back In Black** · 02-29-2016, 11:45 AM

Why is your doctor prescribing you gear to run a cycle? Where do you live?

**bsh** · 02-29-2016, 11:46 AM

Agreed ^^^ As far as the semorelin.... I talk 2iu before bedtime... I can tell u the sleep benefits are worth it alone... I haven't had good restful sleep in years now that I think back?.

Edit: semorelin w/ GHRP 6 / GHRP 2 is great! I think it's alittle stronger..

As per ur questions! U should get some Bac water w/ ur semorelin. Reconstitute and store in the refrigerator and dose at bed time and get ready for some very vivid dreams!!!!

**mike198** · 02-29-2016, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by bsh

Agreed ^^^ As far as the semorelin.... I talk 2iu before bedtime... I can tell u the sleep benefits are worth it alone... I haven't had good restful sleep in years now that I think back?. Edit: semorelin w/ GHRP 6 / GHRP 2 is great! I think it's alittle stronger.. As per ur questions! U should get some Bac water w/ ur semorelin. Reconstitute and store in the refrigerator and dose at bed time and get ready for some very vivid dreams!!!!

Good to hear man. Can I just store the sermorelin in a cool, dark room until I'm ready to reconstitute? I'm planning to start my cycle in April

**Proximal** · 02-29-2016, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by bsh

Agreed ^^^ As far as the semorelin.... I talk 2iu before bedtime... I can tell u the sleep benefits are worth it alone... I haven't had good restful sleep in years now that I think back?.

Edit: semorelin w/ GHRP 6 / GHRP 2 is great! I think it's alittle stronger..

As per ur questions! U should get some Bac water w/ ur semorelin. Reconstitute and store in the refrigerator and dose at bed time and get ready for some very vivid dreams!!!!

Going to use this after I've seen what my body will do with T only. How long have you been using this and besides the sleep benefit; have you noticed much else: decreased body fat or any contribution to size? Thanks!

**bsh** · 02-29-2016, 12:15 PM

Ive used semorelin for 5 months now.. Along w/ 2iu HGH in the mornings... So I tell u, I have shed belly fat for sure! I think it's more the HGH tho... Yes, just store in cool dry place till ur ready...

**Mr.BB** · 02-29-2016, 03:50 PM

Sermorelin is a GHRH (Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone), it will stimulate the release of GH on the pituitary.

It was the first to GHRH to be enginneered, the problem is that is very fast acting, with an active life of less than 5 minutes. Now, with the pulsatile function of the pituitary means that you have a very small window for the GH pulse. The more modern "version" of GHRH is the Modified GRF(1-29) which will have an active live of around 30 minutes.
Also, injecting mod GRF(1-29) only is not very effective, you need to inject an GHRP to amplify the GH pulse. GHRP and GHRH will work in synergy.

Using sermorelin only will prove to be quite useless, specially if you are cutting as it can trigger strong hunger effect immediately post injection (GHRP2 and GHRP6 will also have this effect.

Using a GHRP2+Mod GRF(1-29) can be a good combo in restoring GH levels, but it will not have much effect in muscle mass or fat reduction.

About the amount of testosterone have to agree with The Deadlifting Dog, it is a dose not worth of risking your HTPA.

**Juced_porkchop** · 02-29-2016, 03:56 PM

only mix when ready to use and mix each vial as needed, not before hand. and keep them in the fridge when mixed and not mixed IMO

**mike198** · 02-29-2016, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

only mix when ready to use and mix each vial as needed, not before hand. and keep them in the fridge when mixed and not mixed IMO

Got it. Thanks. I'm keeping all my gear in my bedroom, which is always dark and cool. Can't wait to get it going in April

As far as hemoglobin goes, anybody sensitive in that area? My precycle baseline was at 17.0. I donated blood at the 3 week mark, where it measured at 18.2. I then did mid cycle bloods and it was at 17.0 (TT was > 1500, up from 489 precycle). I got ballsy and increased the test dose to 300/week. After 3 weeks on this protocol (which put me at the 10 week mark) I went to donate blood and got rejected as my hemoglobin measured at 20.2. This is another reason I want to keep the test dose moderate. I have some friends that are nurses, and they're going to show me how to do a therapeutic bloodletting at home. I know 20.2 is well above range, but is that number really that dangerous? I know a guy on another board who is on TRT, and he said he's at 21 hemoglobin and 56 hematocrit year round and says it's not an issue

**austinite** · 02-29-2016, 06:50 PM

Maybe I missed it but what dose sermorelin are you taking?

**Proximal** · 02-29-2016, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Maybe I missed it but what dose sermorelin are you taking?

Awesome, am eager to hear what you have to say about sermorelin.

**mike198** · 03-01-2016, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Maybe I missed it but what dose sermorelin are you taking?

300 mcg an hour before bed. No carbs in system

**Juced_porkchop** · 03-01-2016, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by mike198

Got it. Thanks. I'm keeping all my gear in my bedroom, which is always dark and cool. Can't wait to get it going in April

As far as hemoglobin goes, anybody sensitive in that area? My precycle baseline was at 17.0. I donated blood at the 3 week mark, where it measured at 18.2. I then did mid cycle bloods and it was at 17.0 (TT was > 1500, up from 489 precycle). I got ballsy and increased the test dose to 300/week. After 3 weeks on this protocol (which put me at the 10 week mark) I went to donate blood and got rejected as my hemoglobin measured at 20.2. This is another reason I want to keep the test dose moderate. I have some friends that are nurses, and they're going to show me how to do a therapeutic bloodletting at home. I know 20.2 is well above range, but is that number really that dangerous? I know a guy on another board who is on TRT, and he said he's at 21 hemoglobin and 56 hematocrit year round and says it's not an issue

you should keep the peps in the fridge. aas is fine in room

**mike198** · 03-01-2016, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

you should keep the peps in the fridge. aas is fine in room

I think I'm going to start the sermorelin tonight and then hit the test in April. Does sermorelin take immediate effect, or does it require a slow build up like test?

**Proximal** · 03-01-2016, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by mike198

I think I'm going to start the sermorelin tonight and then hit the test in April. Does sermorelin take immediate effect, or does it require a slow build up like test?

My TRT/HRT doc + what I've goggled said you won't see results for 3-6 mos. I tried it for 1 month, then quit, because I wanted to see what T alone, and at different levels would do for me. I'll try again later this year, then will switch to HGH if I am not happy with the results.

**bsh** · 03-01-2016, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by mike198

I think I'm going to start the sermorelin tonight and then hit the test in April. Does sermorelin take immediate effect, or does it require a slow build up like test?

Give it shot! Haha... Sorry couldn't resist, but seriously, I think it's great u will go ahead and try it before ur cycle... Don't expect magic and just let it do what it does and over a period of time u may see result?! But I personally like the stuff and as I've said before it makes sleep amazing again..

**bsh** · 03-04-2016, 12:34 PM

Any updates bro... Curious

**Ashop** · 03-04-2016, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by bsh

Agreed ^^^ As far as the semorelin.... I talk 2iu before bedtime... I can tell u the sleep benefits are worth it alone... I haven't had good restful sleep in years now that I think back?.

Edit: semorelin w/ GHRP 6 / GHRP 2 is great! I think it's alittle stronger..

As per ur questions! U should get some Bac water w/ ur semorelin. Reconstitute and store in the refrigerator and dose at bed time and get ready for some very vivid dreams!!!!

I will have to try it for its sleep improvements alone. I often struggle for sleep.

**mike198** · 03-04-2016, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by bsh

Any updates bro... Curious

Have only done 2 shots of the sermorelin, so nothing to note just yet. I understand igf 1 levels should rise immediately, but other effects take some time to manifest

**mike198** · 03-05-2016, 10:39 PM

Is there an equivalency ratio when it comes to sermorelin dosage and HGH? I'm doing 300 mcg/day, so would that be equivalent to 2-3 IU's HGH/day, or am I way off in even assuming there is such an equation?