Antibiotics

**600@50** · 05-27-2016, 10:19 PM

We all know there is a remote chance of getting an infection pinning AAS from UGLs or even Pharma grade and the rare occasion when it just happens. What type of antibiotics are usually given for this kind of infection? Anyone have any personal experiences you care to relate?

**01dragonslayer** · 05-27-2016, 10:30 PM

Antibiotic choice is predicated on a number of factors. Efficacy is certainly the first thing you look at. The next thing you would look at is the side effect profile. When many drugs can achieve the same primary goal of killing bacteria, you want to select one that damages the patient as little as possible. This includes things like avoiding certain classes of medicinesnot using a medicine the patient is allergic towards, avoiding nephrotoxic drugs in patients with preexisting renal impairment, watching out for possible medication interactions, etc. Finally, there is a new principle of antibiotic stewardship, where we try to use as narrow an antibiotic as possible to prevent further development of antibiotic resistance. This means that if two antibiotics are equally effective and safe, we choose the one that is most specific towards killing the bacteria currently infecting the patient, rather than using broad-spectrum coverage.

**almostgone** · 05-28-2016, 05:59 AM

Personally, I keep doxycycline, azithromycin, and amoxicillin on hand. With that being said, I refer to the PDR and determine which is best suited for my needs if I can determine it. However if it is an respiratory, ear, nose, throat, bacteremia, or potential food poisoning issue, I generally take myself into my Dr.
Also, I'm am somewhat of a prepper, so I keep spare maintenance meds (BP, thyroid. NSAIDs etc.) on hand for the wife and I. Pretty much anything we are prescribed that requires maintaining a therapeutic level in the system.

**mietek** · 05-28-2016, 06:42 AM

use whatman syringe filters, it will filter bacteria and problem solved

**Ashop** · 05-28-2016, 05:52 PM

I never take anti biotics. They are extremely over prescribed and you body can develop immunites,,meaning that later on if you ever use them again, they may not work at all for you. I will only use them if its a DIRE situation.

**joebailey1271** · 05-28-2016, 06:22 PM

Its best to get a culture to see what ABT the bacteria is sensitive too. Most good doctors will put you on a broad spectrum ABT until the culture comes back. Before the culture its just an educated guess, let a doctor make that decision for you, but it will usually be Bactrim or doxy.

**600@50** · 05-28-2016, 08:12 PM

Dragonslayer....thanks for the in depth explanation. While you are 100% correct I was looking for more of a layman's answer. The reason I was asking is there have been 2 guys at my gym get infections after pinning. Different compounds, different times (roughly 9 months apart), different sources and they went to different doctors. One doctor prescribed keflex and the other prescribed a Z-pak. Both protocols did there job and the guys got over their respective infections. I guess I was looking for what antibiotic is the most generally used for an IM infection.

**MuscleScience** · 05-28-2016, 08:19 PM

Taking an anti-biotic without a medically necessary reason is probably one of the single worse thing you can do to your health. You as an organism are more bacteria than human. If you hit this symbiotic community with a poison, you are essentially poisoning yourself. If you think I'm being dramatic. One round of anti-biotics causes disruption to your intestinal flora for up to a year or more. Two consecutive rounds of anti-biotics increases your chance of death by all causes by %50 percent. It is extremely important for your health to keep your micro-biome healthy.

**600@50** · 05-28-2016, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by almostgone

Personally, I keep doxycycline, azithromycin, and amoxicillin on hand. With that being said, I refer to the PDR and determine which is best suited for my needs if I can determine it. However if it is an respiratory, ear, nose, throat, bacteremia, or potential food poisoning issue, I generally take myself into my Dr.
Also, I'm am somewhat of a prepper, so I keep spare maintenance meds (BP, thyroid. NSAIDs etc.) on hand for the wife and I. Pretty much anything we are prescribed that requires maintaining a therapeutic level in the system.

I'm right there with you man. I tend to prep in advance too. This ^^^^^^ is more what I was looking for. As I have aged I tend to keep a longer supply of meds on hand just in case. You gave me some good info to follow up on. Thanks man.

**600@50** · 05-28-2016, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Taking an anti-biotic without a medically necessary reason is probably one of the single worse thing you can do to your health. You as an organism are more bacteria than human. If you hit this symbiotic community with a poison, you are essentially poisoning yourself. If you think I'm being dramatic. One round of anti-biotics causes disruption to your intestinal flora for up to a year or more. Two consecutive rounds of anti-biotics increases your chance of death by all causes by %50 percent. It is extremely important for your health to keep your micro-biome healthy.

Seems as though I have created some emotion about antibiotics. First off I have hardly ever had antibiotics in my 55 years on the planet. The question was about what was normally prescribed for an IM infection.

AND NO I DON'T HAVE ONE!!!

My follow up to Dragonslayer's response gives more info about why I asked the question in the first place. Sorry for all the uproar I've caused over a simple question. And thanks MuscleScience for the concern but it was just a question about something I hoped would be easy and simple to answer. And I do take my probiotics everyday to maintain my intestinal flora.

**MuscleScience** · 05-28-2016, 08:44 PM

It was more a general statement sorry if I came off as a dick. I just don't want to see our prokaryote friends die an unnecessary death. :-)

**joebailey1271** · 05-28-2016, 08:48 PM

I assume your not a doctor or even better a pharmacist. Medications have reactions, for example if you are on methotrexate, and u mix with a abt like Bactrim, those too mixed could have a near fatal reaction, Methotrexate and trimethoprim-sulphamethoxazole: extremely serious and life-threatening combination. So you MIGHT want to ask a real Doctor or even better a Pharmacist before you start shoving pills in your mouth.

**600@50** · 05-28-2016, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

It was more a general statement sorry if I came off as a dick. I just don't want to see our prokaryote friends die an unnecessary death. :-)

Not a problem man. Seriously...... thanks for the concern.

**600@50** · 05-28-2016, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by joebailey1271

I assume your not a doctor or even better a pharmacist. Medications have reactions, for example if you are on methotrexate, and u mix with a abt like Bactrim, those too mixed could have a near fatal reaction, Methotrexate and trimethoprim-sulphamethoxazole: extremely serious and life-threatening combination. So you MIGHT want to ask a real Doctor or even better a Pharmacist before you start shoving pills in your mouth.

OK.........FOR THE LAST TIME!!!!! IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION. READ THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE YOU START ASSUMING ANYTHING!!!!!

My gosh people no wonder this forum has fallen off. Nobody reads what other people say and then they give advice about stuff that don't exist. REALLY!!!!!!

And for your info joebailey I'm 55 years old and I DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE ANY PRESCRIBED MEDS. No BP meds. No heart meds. No cholesterol meds. No viagra or cialis. So thanks for caring but read the thread next time before you give advice

**joebailey1271** · 05-28-2016, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by 600@50

OK.........FOR THE LAST TIME!!!!! IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION. READ THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE YOU START ASSUMING ANYTHING!!!!!

My gosh people no wonder this forum has fallen off. Nobody reads what other people say and then they give advice about stuff that don't exist. REALLY!!!!!!

And for your info joebailey I'm 55 years old and I DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE ANY PRESCRIBED MEDS. No BP meds. No heart meds. No cholesterol meds. No viagra or cialis. So thanks for caring but read the thread next time before you give advice

Don't get all hypertensive, I'm not saying you was taking anything, I'm glad your not. I'm just saying sometimes we try to diagnose ourselves by the net, I done it, most people have.