Results 1 to 13 of 13
Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By heavyhitter08

Thread: Critique Cycle!

  1. #1
    heavyhitter08's Avatar
    heavyhitter08 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Big-Arexia
    Posts
    392

    Critique Cycle!

    Hey Gents, need some help critiquing my cycle since its been a while. Too much? what am i missing....

    Background- Been training for over 10 yrs and have done 2 cycles before (basic cycles TEST base with a kick start). 32 yrs old, 5'10, 195lbs around 16% BF. My diet right is based on a 500 calorie deficit and ketogenic with carb loads. I will run this diet throughout the cycle.

    Week 1-4 Test Prop EOD @100mg I don't like the wait on long esters and didn't want to add another oral to kickstart. thoughts?

    Week 1-12 Test E every 3.5 days @ 250mg/500mg total

    Week 1-12 hCg every 3.5 days @250iu/500iu total

    Week 1-14 Arimidex EOD @.25mg

    Week 8-12 Anavar everyday @50mg/Split daily

    Week 15-18 PCT (Nolva/Clomid) every day Nolva 40/20/20/20 and Clomid 70/50/50/50
    InternalFire likes this.

  2. #2
    InternalFire is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    2,259
    all seem well to me but frontload test e along with prop you may want to have your arimidex little higher for weeks 2-5, although Im not sure Im just estimating, VET's should advice better

  3. #3
    musclestack is offline Productive Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    2,093
    I like it. I've kick started with Prop before, and I much prefer it to oral kick starts. Nice lean gains in the beginning without looking like a balloon. Another thing you could think about doing is finishing off with 2 weeks of Prop so you can start PCT faster, which is what I did. Anymore, I just don't bother with long esters for the exact reason you mentioned, plus I like to start PCT more quickly and I tend to hold more water on long ester compounds regardless of AI usage.

  4. #4
    numbere is offline RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    4,111
    You should use hcg up to 2-3 days before PCT.

    Five weeks of var is a bit short and there's no need to split the dose.

  5. #5
    NACH3's Avatar
    NACH3 is offline VET
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Baking chicken
    Posts
    19,418
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    You should use hcg up to 2-3 days before PCT.

    Five weeks of var is a bit short and there's no need to split the dose.



    I'd run that var on a backload for at least 8wks(if not 10) w/liver support

  6. #6
    AR's King Silabolin's Avatar
    AR's King Silabolin is online now Castle Power
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    6,612
    You are experienced and i would drop the var and add deca 250 mg 10-11 first weeks. Some would say 250 mg deca is nothing, but thats is not true.

  7. #7
    NACH3's Avatar
    NACH3 is offline VET
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Baking chicken
    Posts
    19,418
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    You are experienced and i would drop the var and add deca 250 mg 10-11 first weeks. Some would say 250 mg deca is nothing, but thats is not true.
    Unless it's for joint relief(and it's slightly higher than that but not much)your wasting your time on that dose imo....

  8. #8
    heavyhitter08's Avatar
    heavyhitter08 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Big-Arexia
    Posts
    392
    Quote Originally Posted by musclestack View Post
    I like it. I've kick started with Prop before, and I much prefer it to oral kick starts. Nice lean gains in the beginning without looking like a balloon. Another thing you could think about doing is finishing off with 2 weeks of Prop so you can start PCT faster, which is what I did. Anymore, I just don't bother with long esters for the exact reason you mentioned, plus I like to start PCT more quickly and I tend to hold more water on long ester compounds regardless of AI usage.
    Yup, exactly the reasons why I was thinking of adding. Didn't even think about the last two weeks, i would much rather get the PCT over with than waiting to start it!

  9. #9
    heavyhitter08's Avatar
    heavyhitter08 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Big-Arexia
    Posts
    392
    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    You should use hcg up to 2-3 days before PCT.

    Five weeks of var is a bit short and there's no need to split the dose.

    ok thanks. I was thinking bc of the half life that it would be good to split the dose. Its short bc I'm concerned about the impact on the liver but I have enough to bump it to 7 or 8 weeks

  10. #10
    numbere is offline RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    4,111
    Quote Originally Posted by heavyhitter08 View Post
    ok thanks. I was thinking bc of the half life that it would be good to split the dose. Its short bc I'm concerned about the impact on the liver but I have enough to bump it to 7 or 8 weeks
    In my experience you really don't notice a difference when taking an oral once a day, plus it's one less thing to forget lol.

    Yes it's hepatotoxic but 8-10 weeks won't have that large of an effect and var should be used that long to benefit fully.

    Be sure to take 1200mg of NAC during your cycle and bump it up to 1800-2400mg when taking an oral.

  11. #11
    heavyhitter08's Avatar
    heavyhitter08 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Big-Arexia
    Posts
    392
    also, what dosage did you run for the kick start. I was thinking 300mg the first four weeks or 400mg, whats the sweet spot since i'll be doing the Test E at the same time during those weeks.

  12. #12
    heavyhitter08's Avatar
    heavyhitter08 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Big-Arexia
    Posts
    392
    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    In my experience you really don't notice a difference when taking an oral once a day, plus it's one less thing to forget lol.

    Yes it's hepatotoxic but 8-10 weeks won't have that large of an effect and var should be used that long to benefit fully.

    Be sure to take 1200mg of NAC during your cycle and bump it up to 1800-2400mg when taking an oral.
    thanks for the info, yeah i'll bump it up and totally forgot about adding NAC or Niacin. Good reminder, cobb webs are starting to clear lol.

  13. #13
    musclestack is offline Productive Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    2,093
    Quote Originally Posted by heavyhitter08 View Post
    also, what dosage did you run for the kick start. I was thinking 300mg the first four weeks or 400mg, whats the sweet spot since i'll be doing the Test E at the same time during those weeks.
    I ran 100mg EOD weeks 1-4, alongside my Test E @ 250mg/week.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •