Looking for cardio enhancers

**southpaw_boxer** · 07-06-2016, 06:47 AM

First timer here. I had made another thread asking for info on my first cycle

Weeks 1-12: Testosterone Enanthate , 300mg, E3D
Weeks 1-4: Dbol , 50mg, ED

I wanted to hear any recommendations for something I can take during the cycle to enhance cardio. If you know any details to taking the recommended substance, please let me know.

The only thing I know of personally is Singulair.

**ScotchGuard02** · 07-06-2016, 09:22 AM

If you're not an endurance athlete then just hard work is your solution. The endurance athletes take stuff but they go overboard with it and die.

**southpaw_boxer** · 07-06-2016, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

If you're not an endurance athlete then just hard work is your solution. The endurance athletes take stuff but they go overboard with it and die.

Actually, I'm a boxer, so endurance is one of my goals in this cycle. Any recommendations?

**ScotchGuard02** · 07-06-2016, 10:10 AM

I'm a stand up coach at a MMA school. Stand up fighters generally use two energy systems through out the fight. The cardio vascular and lactic acid energy system. I've been in the game a long time but haven't seen any AAS that can help with the first. What I found works better is to get the boxer on a cycle increase the speed and strength on cycle and bring up the cardio endurance after the cycle. The increase in muscle mass due to the cycle helps during the intense cardio training. There is just more muscles left over after the boxer gets in shape. The cycle than cardio regiment has worked well for my fighters.

**01dragonslayer** · 07-06-2016, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by southpaw_boxer

First timer here. I had made another thread asking for info on my first cycle

Weeks 1-12: Testosterone Enanthate , 300mg, E3D
Weeks 1-4: Dbol , 50mg, ED

I wanted to hear any recommendations for something I can take during the cycle to enhance cardio. If you know any details to taking the recommended substance, please let me know.

The only thing I know of personally is Singulair.

Have you tried researching the SARM SR-9009.

Here is some info..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s1slXjQ2I4

**numbere** · 07-06-2016, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer

Have you tried researching the SARM SR-9009.

Hey Dragon I ran 9009 for 8 weeks, it's expensive snake oil.

Turns out that it's not bioavailable.

It was generated with the intention of proving whether drugs in that category are worth further research and development.

**01dragonslayer** · 07-06-2016, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

Hey Dragon I ran 9009 for 8 weeks, it's expensive snake oil.

Turns out that it's not bioavailable.

It was generated with the intention of proving whether drugs in that category are worth further research and development.

It depends on what you read and want to believe. IMO the best real way to find out is from personal experience. I have cycled it numerous times with good results.

**southpaw_boxer** · 07-06-2016, 03:49 PM

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**southpaw_boxer** · 07-06-2016, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

I'm a stand up coach at a MMA school. Stand up fighters generally use two energy systems through out the fight. The cardio vascular and lactic acid energy system. I've been in the game a long time but haven't seen any AAS that can help with the first. What I found works better is to get the boxer on a cycle increase the speed and strength on cycle and bring up the cardio endurance after the cycle. The increase in muscle mass due to the cycle helps during the intense cardio training. There is just more muscles left over after the boxer gets in shape. The cycle than cardio regiment has worked well for my fighters.

Ah, ok , thanks. I've finally reached the point where I can spar 6 rounds comfortably, but I want to increase my punch output. I was thinking maybe AAS raises red blood cell count. Appreciate the answer.

**tarmyg** · 07-07-2016, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

Hey Dragon I ran 9009 for 8 weeks, it's expensive snake oil.

Turns out that it's not bioavailable.

It was generated with the intention of proving whether drugs in that category are worth further research and development.

Say it ain't so :-( How can that be with some many reputable people on these forums promoting it?

**InternalFire** · 07-07-2016, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by tarmyg

Say it ain't so :-( How can that be with some many reputable people on these forums promoting it?

placebo / naive novice cant admit hard earned cash went down the drain / indirect product marketing / you name it

**Bonaparte** · 07-07-2016, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by southpaw_boxer

Ah, ok , thanks. I've finally reached the point where I can spar 6 rounds comfortably, but I want to increase my punch output. I was thinking maybe AAS raises red blood cell count. Appreciate the answer.

They all do. But they'll generally hurt endurance by causing pumps and increasing oxygen demand (through increased BMR and increased body mass). Especially Dbol .