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07-24-2016, 12:21 PM #1Member
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Does anyone take Psy meds?
curious to know if any members here take psy meds?
i do...
i take...
800mg Seroquel
10mg Zyprexa
3mg Klonopin
4mg Xanax
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07-24-2016, 02:07 PM #2Knowledgeable Member
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If your on that much meds for psychiatric help you should probably avoid tren . Unless you have schizophrenia you should try to come off all those meds, slowly. All those meds are horriblea. There are ways to deal with some psychiatric problems without meds. If your doctor isnt just a pill mill and you truly need these type of meds you should stay away from all AAS.
looking at seroquel dosing info it is generally only given in doses as high as your taking for schizophrenia, and bi polar conditions. 800mg is the maximum recommended dose.
AAS can have some side effects that mess with your mind, from your med list thats the last thing you need.Last edited by jstone; 07-24-2016 at 02:15 PM.
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07-24-2016, 02:49 PM #4Knowledgeable Member
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I only meant drop them under doc supervision, and if the problems are not serious like schizophrenia or bi polar like conditions. Running a cycle is completely different than trt. Trt is replacing what your missing. Running a cycle is taking supra physiological amounts of test and other drugs. This can effect your mental health greatly.
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07-24-2016, 03:18 PM #5
IMO if you need psy meds you should not take steroids .
Dramatic hormonal changes (as in steroids cycle) will always have a psycological effects, and probably not in a good way.
EDIT: And your low T is from this meds, not doubt about it.
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07-24-2016, 03:59 PM #7
I used to take Xanax and klonopin when I was a raging drug addict many moons ago. Those doses would blow me away at the height of my tolerance level. You need to run from that Doctor as fast as you can imo. I wish you the very best
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07-24-2016, 04:13 PM #10
With the sort of issues that necessitate that many drugs, please don't go screwing with your hormones.
But if you must, stick to something with a low androgenic value and short half life (most orals would fit the bill). This way, you can drop it and be back to normal within a few days if you react poorly.
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07-24-2016, 06:29 PM #13Knowledgeable Member
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I said he should try to come off all the meds, and in my next post I even said under doctor supervision. If you knew anything about the drugs you would realize his doses are so high that its generally only used at these levels for schizophrenia, and bi polar people. You obviously have no clue about these drugs, he is using them for anxiety, thats not a problem that warrants these doses. I do work in the medical field, but I have no need to let you know the degree I have. Its nothing special, but anybody who knows anything knows what he is taking is way overblown for axiety. My educated opinion would be that he started out taking them without doctor supervision, and then found a pill mill doctor to prescribe the drugs he wanted.
I know someone with schizophrenia and I have seen what serequel can do, along with all the other drugs for anxiety is not necessary. Every doctor I know would never prescribe these drugs this recklessly.
Your reading comprehension is horrible. Never did I say to stop the drugs. I said he should try to come off of all of them. Drugs aren't necessary for most anxiety problems, and there is no type of anxiety disorder inhave ever come across that would require this cocktail of drugs.Last edited by jstone; 07-24-2016 at 06:32 PM.
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I just know lots of peole that have had so many problems with these drugs, that finding alternative methods to cope is better. Unless it is something like bi polar disorder. Your dose for each is very high, and I dont want to see anyone go through the things I have seen when dealing with these drugs.
I have been in a similar situation with different drugs, all doctor prescribed as well. Trust me when I say your not looking at the whole picture, thinking you need all of this for mood stabilization. 800mg is the max dose for schizophrenia. If you have one of the disorders serequel is used to treat, and you just dont want it out on a public forum its understandable.
Lemonada the drugs you take are no comparison to a strong anti psychotic like serequel.
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I have been prescribed stuff over the years but they make me feel Sluggish like a sloth. So xanax is all i take these days.
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07-24-2016, 10:34 PM #21
Bump this...if you're on THAT many meds and tho I'm not a doctor, I can't see anabolics being a smart addition. ESPECIALLY TREN . The juice will be there when the time is right.
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07-25-2016, 12:02 AM #23
Lemonada, I understand you want to cycle like anyone else. The only thing that concerns me about your pharmaceuticals is; Seroquel and Zyprexa used together makes for a very strong anti psychotic and Bipolar Disorder "cocktail". And 3mg Klonopin together with 4mg Xanax daily are two drugs that are from the Benzodiazepine family and are very close in chemical makeup. (Xanax being the stronger of the two). I don't understand why your Dr would put you on either of these two drugs at the same time! I don't see how you are able to keep your eyes open during the day. As far as mixing the Benzodiazepines and anti psychotics with steroids , there probably wouldn't be a problem there. If you did have any problems it would come from the side effects of the steroids effecting your ability to maintain a normal psychological balance in your brain. This is just my opinion brother. The final decision is yours to make. Best wishes!
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07-25-2016, 12:43 AM #24Anabolic Member
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is it a mega de-rail thread or what?
It seems it all started with a simple question and spinned off as a rant of a great depth... then, so how about not noticing folks on this thread with ADD/ADHD, or am I not seeing something?
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im not plannin a cycle anytime soon gotta lose the abilify weight first ... damn weight neutral my ass!
as for the other part, klonopin is a long acting to keep the anxiety at bay typically taken daily. THe xanax is for break thru panic attacks.
for running a cycle, the OP is on TRT atm, my only concern would be the weight issue ( antipsychotics are notorious for weight issues). Make sure ur diet is on track and u have it under control. but i agree with most of what else u said.
If anything i would start low and go from there and pay attention to your mood daily to make sure nothing is being drastically changed.
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07-25-2016, 05:13 AM #26
Cant imagine myself training on 4mg xanax :/
Have a feeling that if someone asked the OP stats and cycle history the advice on his threaths would be completwly different.
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07-25-2016, 05:32 AM #27
Considering in 3 days he posted:
I'm doing test only cycl3 soon (in this thread)
Started another about tren E insomnia
And another thread does anyone take tren a and mast.
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07-25-2016, 08:17 AM #28Originally Posted by Lemonada8
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07-25-2016, 08:33 AM #29
Keep in mind that as much as it is advised to be physically ready to use AAS, the user needs to be MENTALLY ready as well. Part of the reason most people advise waiting until a certain age.
If all these meds are needed then maybe a user isn't mentally ready for AAS use.
Or maybe the doctor is just writing scripts for his own financial gain.
Seems like there's a lot more going on here that we know.....
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07-25-2016, 09:03 AM #30
Do you really want to be messing around with your hormones when your taking all those meds?
How many cycles have you done?
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07-25-2016, 09:05 AM #31
I take psy meds... Nothing on this list but, I have cycled many times w/o any issues... I'm not sayin do it I'm just sayin I have and I do and it hasn't been any problem for me personally! Just sayin, GL with whatever u decide to do!
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4mgs of Xanax on top of 3mgs of Klonopin(not including the Seroquel) id have slobber just dripping from my mouth lol
I've been on Klonopin PRN(as needed) for anxiety but I found out the underlying issue was PTSD... Which amplified my anxiety but anxiety wasn't my only problem like I thought... Always try and find the culprit(not saying what you've said is inaccurate by any means)! Just be safe I've been ok but not on nearly as much but we all metabolize meds differently
Best of luck
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07-25-2016, 09:18 AM #33
I take a lot of stimulants and still have significant drowsiness, if I were to take a tranquilizer I guess I would fall into coma lol
How do you guys manage to take such large amounts and still have a normal life?
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07-25-2016, 11:43 AM #34RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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Klonopin inhibits 2D6.
This means the body will metabolize nolva at a much lover rate.
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07-25-2016, 08:27 PM #35Member
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ill be honest ive done one half cycle, i bailed out at 6 weeks due to puffy nips that scared me away... i was young and reckless..didnt know what i was doing. now i know alot more from learning from u guys and the boards.... knowledge is spread well on these boards. im grateful.
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my meds arent that many... the benzos are on an as needed basis...so im not on alot of meds like some believe.... ive only done 1 cycle and i backed out at week 6 due to puffy nipples. i got scared and was young. learned alot since then and feel confident running a test cycle or a test deca cycle.
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07-25-2016, 08:48 PM #39
Everything varies by person. Diet, training, juice, meds.....nothing is cookie cutter. Just because one guy drove home wasted drunk & made it without hitting anyone doesn't mean that everyone should do it.
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