Stack Advice.. Experienced with cycles however, its been about 15 years anything New?

**socalmemories** · 07-02-2017, 02:00 PM

This is just a inquiry as I am experienced and want to know what has changed in terms of pharma tech and methods if anything.
My basic go to stack would be as follows:
Test C - 400-600/wk
Deca - 400-600/wk
Anadrol - 50/mg 2x's/day (50 days total in mid cycle)
Winstrol - 50/mg 1x/day (Switch from Adrol last 30 days)
Nolva and Clomid post cycle.

total cycle = 12-16 weeks depending.

I know its probably old school but, not looking to pin more than 2x per week.
This is my current and its working pretty well but, reading about Tren and pretty much looks like it will overpower anything and would most likely need to run Test C at 250/wk just keep test level's flowing.
Not looking to compete but, just refocusing on my physical condition after years of focusing on my career/family.
age 42.. Not trying to go compete.

**Rockclimber** · 07-02-2017, 03:47 PM

I was out for 10 years before I got back into bodybuilding like you. The only thing that has really changed is Tren A, and I must say that it is as good as it is touted around here. I went ahead and started running 100mg EOD a few weeks ago and my body has already seen enormous changes. I may never use Deca or EQ again. Amazing new invention this Tren A powder.

**socalmemories** · 07-02-2017, 04:03 PM

Thanks for the input Rock... much appreciate it brother.

**tbjake34** · 07-03-2017, 05:19 PM

I'm a younger guy but from what the old timers tell me. Gear just isn't the same as it was in the 90s/ 00s. British Dragon is gone too. Apparently the gear back in the day was more potent. And peptides are making big strides in bodybulding. As they can give amazing gains in muslce, my cycles always have test and anouther compound with Hgh and then a shit load of peptides just for fun.

**tbjake34** · 07-03-2017, 05:21 PM

This guy at my gym is in his mid 40s like u ad he swears he used to get get scrip for anadrol 50 and he'd take one a day and said it was way stronger then any anadrol u get today. Truth to that? Idk, but he's not the only one saying it.

**kelkel** · 07-03-2017, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by socalmemories

This is just a inquiry as I am experienced and want to know what has changed in terms of pharma tech and methods if anything.
My basic go to stack would be as follows:
Test C - 400-600/wk
Deca - 400-600/wk
Anadrol - 50/mg 2x's/day (50 days total in mid cycle)
Winstrol - 50/mg 1x/day (Switch from Adrol last 30 days)
Nolva and Clomid post cycle.

total cycle = 12-16 weeks depending.

I know its probably old school but, not looking to pin more than 2x per week.
This is my current and its working pretty well but, reading about Tren and pretty much looks like it will overpower anything and would most likely need to run Test C at 250/wk just keep test level's flowing.
Not looking to compete but, just refocusing on my physical condition after years of focusing on my career/family.
age 42.. Not trying to go compete.

Step one would be to get current BW to establishment baselines. TT, FT, LH, FSH, CBC, CMP, E2, Prolactin etc. Be good to know to see how you recover from upcoming cycles and also as a reference for TRT in your future.
You should be running HCG as well as liver support (NAC) during cycle particularly using adrol.
No doubt you're running an AI and you should consider Caber as well with the 19 Nor.

**socalmemories** · 07-04-2017, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Step one would be to get current BW to establishment baselines. TT, FT, LH, FSH, CBC, CMP, E2, Prolactin etc. Be good to know to see how you recover from upcoming cycles and also as a reference for TRT in your future.
You should be running HCG as well as liver support (NAC) during cycle particularly using adrol.
No doubt you're running an AI and you should consider Caber as well with the 19 Nor.

Thank you as this is very good advice.. I use to run HCG but obviously skipped it since coming back.. And yes Drol is very harsh.
Funny the focus on BW is one of the key focuses I am noting on here and back in the day at least I, didn't put much focus on it other than noticing the physical and psycho impacts during and post cycle..

Do you just go to your doctor and tell him to run blood work for all of the above levels?

**socalmemories** · 07-04-2017, 09:58 AM

It is true.. everything I use to get a hold of was pure Big Pharma grade so their really wasn't the under dosing or inconsistency in batches/Lot's like I see to day with the smaller home grown companies. HGH has always been something I have looked at but have yet to try it.. prob should. Thanks for the response TB.

**socalmemories** · 07-04-2017, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

This guy at my gym is in his mid 40s like u ad he swears he used to get get scrip for anadrol 50 and he'd take one a day and said it was way stronger then any anadrol u get today. Truth to that? Idk, but he's not the only one saying it.

I get my hands on some pretty good Adrol (not quit as good as the original Brown bottle with the Red Label

) but you can tell it kicks unlike some of the test's I am seeing which is a diff story but all due to the supplier/manufacturer I am sure.

**kelkel** · 07-04-2017, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by socalmemories

Thank you as this is very good advice.. I use to run HCG but obviously skipped it since coming back.. And yes Drol is very harsh.
Funny the focus on BW is one of the key focuses I am noting on here and back in the day at least I, didn't put much focus on it other than noticing the physical and psycho impacts during and post cycle..

Do you just go to your doctor and tell him to run blood work for all of the above levels?

Check out discounted labs dot com or private md labs dot com. They have packages set up for all these situations and it's very cost effective. No doctor involved. There are some states that don't allow it though.

**PT1982** · 07-04-2017, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by socalmemories

This is just a inquiry as I am experienced and want to know what has changed in terms of pharma tech and methods if anything.
My basic go to stack would be as follows:
Test C - 400-600/wk
Deca - 400-600/wk
Anadrol - 50/mg 2x's/day (50 days total in mid cycle)
Winstrol - 50/mg 1x/day (Switch from Adrol last 30 days)
Nolva and Clomid post cycle.

total cycle = 12-16 weeks depending.

I know its probably old school but, not looking to pin more than 2x per week.
This is my current and its working pretty well but, reading about Tren and pretty much looks like it will overpower anything and would most likely need to run Test C at 250/wk just keep test level's flowing.
Not looking to compete but, just refocusing on my physical condition after years of focusing on my career/family.
age 42.. Not trying to go compete.

Did you run an oral for the entire 12-16 weeks?! Both drol and winstrol are super harsh on the liver, so that would be a change I would suggest. And even running it for 4-6 weeks (typical duration), I would run a liver support if either NAC or TUDCA/UDCA, or even a combination of both. Those are the only 2 I have any faith in.