First Cycle Help - Test Cyprionate

**richito** · 02-13-2018, 03:41 AM

Hi Guys,

I will be running my first cycle as follows:

12 Weeks Total:

Weeks 1 - 12 : 500mg/W Test C - 250mg Wed & 250mg Sunday (cycle between Glutes & Shoulder)
Weeks 1 -14: 500IU/W HCG - 250iu Wed & 250iu Sunday ( Sub Q in stomach)
Weeks 1- 14: Anastrazole 0.25mg (weeks 1&2) 0.5mg (Weeks 3 -14)

PCT:
Weeks 14 -18: Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Weeks 14 -18: Nolva 20/20/20/20
Tribulus & Boron

Does this seem appropriate ?

I have been given 6000mg of var in 50mg tablets, would you recommend a front load or finish the cycle off weeks 9-14 on 50mg ED.

I would then stop 3 days before week 14 to pct.

Or would you just recommend a straight Test C cycle.

5'11 - 27yr - 198lbs - 16% BF

Thanks!

**ScotchGuard02** · 02-13-2018, 01:26 PM

Your cycle looks good. I'd run 100mg/ed of Clomid and 40mg/ed of Nolvadex for the first week.

**kelkel** · 02-13-2018, 07:31 PM

As safe as var is you still don't need it on your first cycle.
You don't need to up your AI to .5 at all. Leave it at .25 and check bw at week 6. E2 is always better a little higher than lower.
Add in NAC for liver support.
Don't forget pre-cycle BW as well.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 02-13-2018, 07:45 PM

I can almost guarantee you that you don't need tribulus and boron on PCT.

**richito** · 02-21-2018, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

As safe as var is you still don't need it on your first cycle.
You don't need to up your AI to .5 at all. Leave it at .25 and check bw at week 6. E2 is always better a little higher than lower.
Add in NAC for liver support.
Don't forget pre-cycle BW as well.

Just wondering if I should change my AI to 0.25 EOD instead of ED, experiencing a little bit of joint pain at the moment

**cousinmuscles** · 02-21-2018, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by richito

Just wondering if I should change my AI to 0.25 EOD instead of ED, experiencing a little bit of joint pain at the moment

Definitely, arimidex is a bit stronger. The general guideline is 0.25 EOD. If that is too high then go even lower or E3D and check bloods

**ScotchGuard02** · 02-21-2018, 08:27 AM

How's your cycle coming along?

**AlphaMindz** · 02-21-2018, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by richito

Hi Guys,

I will be running my first cycle as follows:

12 Weeks Total:

Weeks 1 - 12 : 500mg/W Test C - 250mg Wed & 250mg Sunday (cycle between Glutes & Shoulder)
Weeks 1 -14: 500IU/W HCG - 250iu Wed & 250iu Sunday ( Sub Q in stomach)
Weeks 1- 14: Anastrazole 0.25mg (weeks 1&2) 0.5mg (Weeks 3 -14)

PCT:
Weeks 14 -18: Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Weeks 14 -18: Nolva 20/20/20/20
Tribulus & Boron

Does this seem appropriate ?

I have been given 6000mg of var in 50mg tablets, would you recommend a front load or finish the cycle off weeks 9-14 on 50mg ED.

I would then stop 3 days before week 14 to pct.

Or would you just recommend a straight Test C cycle.

5'11 - 27yr - 198lbs - 16% BF

Thanks!

Personally I would use the Var to kick start cycle until the Test kicks in. It's not traditional to to that but if you're asking my opinion or what I would do is run the fast acting compound to get gains while the enanthate is building up..Or you could buy more anavar and just run it the whole time lol

** Oh and why leave 6 shots in that last bottle of Test? It's not going to make any difference in recovery if you finish the last bottle in three weeks time..

**richito** · 03-04-2018, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

How's your cycle coming along?

Great thanks, I noticed considerable placebo effects during weeks 1&2.

I decided to relax and come back to this thread now at week 4 because I was getting caught up getting excited and going a bit crazy in the gym. I thought by sticking to my normal routine with a 5% increase in resistance would keep me focused.

No side effects apart from some palpitations from the Adex ive decreased from 0.25 EOD to E3D because it was making me restless and I was having severe joint pain. I've packed on about 8lbs of weight, I would say 50% is water retention only from the last few days and the rest clean eating.

I signed up to a meal prep company who are delivering my food daily according my macros, which is significantly helping. I would say not much has kicked in from the Test side apart from increased libido. Only week 4 but have noticed slight increase in pumps and endurance, few extra reps per set and recovery between sets has vastly increased.

Noticed a good 1/2 inch increase on arms but could mostly be water retention, overall pleased with results so far. but nothing spectacular. Last 3 days been sweating my balls off and during the night. Just booked a BW exam for week 6 to see how everything is working.

Cheers!

**richito** · 03-05-2018, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by AlphaMindz

Personally I would use the Var to kick start cycle until the Test kicks in. It's not traditional to to that but if you're asking my opinion or what I would do is run the fast acting compound to get gains while the enanthate is building up..Or you could buy more anavar and just run it the whole time lol

** Oh and why leave 6 shots in that last bottle of Test? It's not going to make any difference in recovery if you finish the last bottle in three weeks time..

I am actually away from home during those 3 weeks. Where I am comfortable bringing my PCT but not liquids as I will be flying, plus any ancillaries such as needles etc do not look good through customs at airports haha

**richito** · 03-09-2018, 03:23 AM

Hey Guys,

Quick question here. I injected my delt about 2 days ago.

Absolutely no PIP or soreness until today where it seems i have a hard mass inbetween my lower delt and bicep. Injection site is fine and clean however it is warm to the touch and itchy around the skin of the bump. It doesnt really hurt except feels a bit swollen.

During the injection it went smoothly, same protocol as other injections. Changed to new needle from I drawed with. I went in slow and steady. Aspirated for 3 seconds and then injected 1.2 CC over about 20-30 seconds left needle in site for 5-10 seconds after and drew out. No blood apart from 1 little dot no pain or dull aching. Applied pressure and swabbed area. slight massage after and they went to workout Chest and light shoulders to get blood flowing.

24 hours after no issues, 36 hours later noticed swelling arised.

Any ideas? Im not worried about infection at all because I was clean, run gear for 4 weeks no issues prior. Its just slightly annoying, ive been reading that I might not have gone deep enough but i used a 5/8 25G all the way to the butt of the plastic and then applied pressue so it was 1/5 inch into my delt. So some could have seeped under skin? considering I did do a workout?

Thanks