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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    without going into all the details on that (its fairly complex), I'll just sum that up by saying that there is a strong connection between progesterone and estrogen (which you probably already know) .. and that when progestin receptors are activated , its essentially the same thing as having elevated progesterone and your going to be a lot more sensitive and susceptible to estrogen effects .

    example .. if high normal levels of estrogen normally cause you no problems at all , when your progesterone is elevated or progestin receptors activated suddenly those same levels of estrogen become problematic.
    like guys that run Tren (which doesn't convert to estrogen) and end up with gyno symptoms . its not because their estrogen elevated at all, its just simply because of the progestin activity (from the tren) that they then became super sensitive to estrogen , or another way of saying it is that the progestin activity turned their estrogen into "super estrogen" .

    ^. fyi - thats a very very rough and incomplete way of saying this or describing the relationship .. but hopefully a main point got across
    Yes , for lack of a better explanation, progestin "amplifies" estrogen effects.

    Like a synergy that makes the estrogen more "potent". Like let's say 25ng estrogen level in the presence of significant progestin, the 25ng estrogen will behave like 50 or 75ng. Basically progestin potentiates estrogen?

    Very good explanation GH. I was looking for the short version.

    By chance, any link to the details of said interaction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    you don't need an AI with Tbol . in fact you don't need an AI with most all steroids (as only a few steroids aromatize into estrogen, 90% of them don't). AI's are over rated, over used, and not necessary except in some situations (like situations where estrogen sensitive guys continue to run test only cycles despite knowing they don't tolerate test very well).

    and no you wouldn't need Nolva with Tbol either (it doesn't aromatize, it doesn't act on progestin or estrogen receptors either)
    Thanks gear headed! You're a wealth of information. One last thing on Tbol while I've got your attention, what can someone expect to get in size gains on Tbol compared to Adrol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    MENT has an absurdity potent estrogen that it can create which is real interesting. What do ya say about that?
    Ment is a great compound for guys that are not estrogen sensitive and purposely run estrogen (volumization) phases of their cycles.. I've used Ment several times just for the sole purpose of adding estrogen to a cycle (I do the same thing with Dbol on occasions , which is much more economical then Ment).

    if you asking about HOW exactly Ment is so estrogenic as a 19 nor , I'm still doing research on that and awaiting feedback from other guys I've proposed the same question to.
    obviously it has a progetin effect just like nandrolone . but why is it so so much more estrogenic then nandrolone
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    Quote Originally Posted by ads21 View Post
    Thanks gear headed! You're a wealth of information. One last thing on Tbol while I've got your attention, what can someone expect to get in size gains on Tbol compared to Adrol?
    Tbol is not super water and nutrient retentive like Anadrol is. its good at shuttling glucose into muscle cells, which will bring with it some amount of water into the muscle, thus a little bit more weight and size.. but anadrol will partition pretty much everything into muscle cells as well as volumize your blood . so your going to gain much more weight and size with Adrol.. Tbol will give you more the slow steady tissue growth like most pure anabolics do (which takes time for proteins to be constructed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Tbol is not super water and nutrient retentive like Anadrol is. its good at shuttling glucose into muscle cells, which will bring with it some amount of water into the muscle, thus a little bit more weight and size.. but anadrol will partition pretty much everything into muscle cells as well as volumize your blood . so your going to gain much more weight and size with Adrol.. Tbol will give you more the slow steady tissue growth like most pure anabolics do (which takes time for proteins to be constructed)
    with anadrol ; I hear most of the gains are just water moreso than dbol ; in fact I hear people say dbol gains are more keepable. What do you say about that? Im hearing people while running test take anadrol for like 4 weeks; but 2 weeks after all the gains(strength and size) they made just disappear; I thought the whole point of taking anabolics was to put on muscle tissue whether its dbol, winstrol , var, tren , etc.; is anadrol mainly used for cosmetic purposes only? I did hear of someone do an anadrol cycle(under genetic limit though) gain like 30lbs or so and kept 20lbs months after their anadrol only cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Ment is a great compound for guys that are not estrogen sensitive and purposely run estrogen (volumization) phases of their cycles.. I've used Ment several times just for the sole purpose of adding estrogen to a cycle (I do the same thing with Dbol on occasions , which is much more economical then Ment).

    if you asking about HOW exactly Ment is so estrogenic as a 19 nor , I'm still doing research on that and awaiting feedback from other guys I've proposed the same question to.
    obviously it has a progetin effect just like nandrolone. but why is it so so much more estrogenic then nandrolone
    Think its fair to say MENT is the strongest estrogen compound eh?

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    Take all of the steroid types to ensure you are getting maximum benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5millionbucks View Post
    with anadrol; I hear most of the gains are just water moreso than dbol; in fact I hear people say dbol gains are more keepable. What do you say about that? Im hearing people while running test take anadrol for like 4 weeks; but 2 weeks after all the gains(strength and size) they made just disappear; I thought the whole point of taking anabolics was to put on muscle tissue whether its dbol, winstrol, var, tren, etc.; is anadrol mainly used for cosmetic purposes only? I did hear of someone do an anadrol cycle(under genetic limit though) gain like 30lbs or so and kept 20lbs months after their anadrol only cycle.
    I'll take a swing at this:
    Dbol and Android will dramatically increase water retention, nutrient absorption, nitrogen, protein synthesis ect and strength no matter what you do. What you do while those enhancements are in effect will determine what you retain after stopping the drug. IE you will lose size and strength when the water retention fades but if you took advantage of those increased values via nutrition, sleep and training and proper PCT protocol to prevent catabolic losses you will come out that much better than before.

    I think everyone has seen the guys in their early 20s at the gym grab dbol or anadrol , get jacked in a couple of months, buy all new clothes, get new attitude then a couple months later be back in their old clothes and then blame the compound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeCee112 View Post
    I'll take a swing at this:
    Dbol and Android will dramatically increase water retention, nutrient absorption, nitrogen, protein synthesis ect and strength no matter what you do. What you do while those enhancements are in effect will determine what you retain after stopping the drug. IE you will lose size and strength when the water retention fades but if you took advantage of those increased values via nutrition, sleep and training and proper PCT protocol to prevent catabolic losses you will come out that much better than before.

    I think everyone has seen the guys in their early 20s at the gym grab dbol or anadrol, get jacked in a couple of months, buy all new clothes, get new attitude then a couple months later be back in their old clothes and then blame the compound.
    This is why it is importand to never stop taking drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    This is why it is importand to never stop taking drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeCee112 View Post
    I think everyone has seen the guys in their early 20s at the gym grab dbol or anadrol, get jacked in a couple of months, buy all new clothes, get new attitude then a couple months later be back in their old clothes and then blame the compound.

    If they even show up at the gym after that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    This is why it is importand to never stop taking drugs.
    I think Obs summed this up better than GH. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post

    this is how I'd run it
    Test 200-300mg a week
    Mast 400-600mg a week
    Adrol 50-100mg a day
    Nolva 10-20mg a day
    Great info as usual, GH!

    You gave an example how to run mast in a cutting setup above, what about a bulking setup with test, deca and Adrol/dbol ? Would you run it all through the cycle? Or introduce it in the second half?

    Thanks in advance bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    I think Obs summed this up better than GH. Lol
    Next week I cover diet.

    Preview: Eat a whole bunch of stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Next week I cover diet.

    Preview: Eat a whole bunch of stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    And IFBB pros cant smoke! LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Next week I cover diet.

    Preview: Eat a whole bunch of stuff.

    I'm thinking that's the entire lesson plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeCee112 View Post
    I'll take a swing at this:
    Dbol and Android will dramatically increase water retention, nutrient absorption, nitrogen, protein synthesis ect and strength no matter what you do. What you do while those enhancements are in effect will determine what you retain after stopping the drug. IE you will lose size and strength when the water retention fades but if you took advantage of those increased values via nutrition, sleep and training and proper PCT protocol to prevent catabolic losses you will come out that much better than before.

    I think everyone has seen the guys in their early 20s at the gym grab dbol or anadrol, get jacked in a couple of months, buy all new clothes, get new attitude then a couple months later be back in their old clothes and then blame the compound.
    yeah but what about the guys who run test with anadrol ; after coming off the anadrol as a kickstart they lose most of the water and strength that comes from it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I'm thinking that's the entire lesson plan.
    Spoiler alert!

    Well, at least I can still teach training.

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    Next week I cover diet.

    Preview: Eat a whole bunch of stuff.
    How? I tried but I can't man!!! I already eat so much!!! I don't have time!!!

    - every skinny dude excuse ever
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    If taking 100mg of A bombs daily, when is the best time to take them? 50 x 2 split? Or 100mg at once? Morning? Afternoon? Night? Before gym? After gym? Does it matter? Thanks

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