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05-24-2019, 11:28 AM #1Junior Member
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Any gh releaseing peptides recommended for my situation?
I’m wanting to if gh releaseing peptides would benefit me since my body produces very little and doesn’t respond very well even being on gh treatment for my condition. I’m 21 am on prescription gh Humatrope to be exact 6iu. Since peptides aren’t synthetic gh and only help tap in to your natural production would there be any benefit for me using or would it be a complete waste since my body’s natural production doesn’t really produce any?
I my gh 3 times a day morning/PW/b4 bed All on empty stomach or within an hour
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05-24-2019, 12:41 PM #2
At your age, I would not play with my endocrine system. It is a very sensitive shit and has tons of components tightly related to each other. You would not want to damage it for your future.
That’s my rant, I know that’s not the answer youre looking for, but that’s the truth. You may get your answer from other people though.
Good luck man!
PS: I missed you got a prescription for this already, so ignore my comment.Last edited by The God Himself; 05-24-2019 at 01:39 PM.
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05-24-2019, 01:28 PM #3Banned
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05-25-2019, 04:26 AM #5Productive Member
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05-25-2019, 04:35 AM #6Productive Member
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OP, What are you trying to accomplish?
If you have a medical condition, and it's not working for you, you need to talk to your doctor to make proper adjustments.
If you're just trying to find suggestions on peptides how to build more muscle, I would suggest Increlex pre workout. But peptides are a very expensive way to make minimal gains. I would suggest you honestly assess your goals so you can make an informed decision
To answer your question: to my understanding, if your body can't produce GH naturally, using something that would stimulate production should not work (depending on the cause)
Sent from my LG-LS993 using TapatalkLast edited by HoldMyBeer; 05-25-2019 at 04:38 AM.
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05-25-2019, 10:45 AM #7Junior Member
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I’m asking and wondering if adding any gh secretagogue peptides would benefit my igf levels more while already using gh that I have prescribed for deficiency. Because being on 6iu gh a day my levels are still low especially being on 6iu real pharm grade gh. Because 6iu is a high prescription dosage
And would typically put people in the high igf range but for me no. So since I my natural production is low and sectgergos only increases natural production of igf would it work for someone in my shoes since gh is only exghonges gh. So by combining the two by me taking a sectgergo like mk677 that would increase natural gh podiction and say put the same as a normal 21 year old male igf levels then taking gh would put me in high igf levels. Or are gh releaseing peptides worthless if I don’t produce gh really naturally And does gh stop your natural production while be on hgh?
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05-25-2019, 07:05 PM #8Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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If you are getting the HGH from the pharmacy right off the shelf and still have low IGF1 levels, then there is a problem with your endocrine system, or that the lab running your bloodwork did something wrong, or some other perscription/drug/etc is affecting the results. If you are buying " pharma " grade black market from a UGL or source of some kind, then it would be obvious that you were sold fake pharma gear (which is very common).
IGF - 1 bloodwork is easy manipulated/influenced if variables are not controlled, and if you are just getting Growth Hormone (serum) levels tested, those results will mean nothing.
A peptide is not going to fix your issue.I no longer check my inbox. If you PM me I will not reply.
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05-26-2019, 03:59 AM #9Productive Member
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".. GH induces the generation of insulin -like growth factor 1 (IGF-1, also called somatomedin 1) in the liver and regulates the paracrine production ofIGF-1 in many other tissues... "
Unhealthy liver and/or pancreas? Something seems off. Plus BW involving hGH and igf are notoriously iffy and dependant on a multitude of factors. I feel like if synthetic HG really wasn't working properly, the doc would have done something about it...
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05-26-2019, 09:26 AM #10Junior Member
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The reason for my low igf is because I have hypochondroplasia a form of dwarfism less sides tho.
I also have low testosterone and have been on trt since 18 because the condition can cause it. And being on trt it have Been way more effective for me positively because my levels were little to none. But being on gh treatment hasn’t been very effective even being on a pretty decent dose of 6iu. And yes it’s prescription growth I get directly from the pharmacy that is stored and handled correctly no black market shit. It just seems that my body doesn’t like gh or know what to do with it. But they do increase a little even being still low end on charts. Except for the last labs they were lower then before.
My doc doesn’t really want to increase the dose anymore but I read studies before that kids with the condition were treated with doses up to 5mg which is about 15iu. So It seems for me I just need a higher dose then typical it seems because of how it’s less effective on me. But since my doc won’t increase the dose I looking for peptides because it’s the only thing I could afford and I know I’m on gh but I get that covered by a insurance program because I would not be able to afford it on my own.
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05-26-2019, 10:46 AM #11Productive Member
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Yeah, but running it too high may cause unwanted side effects such as insulin sensitivity which can lead to diabetes, so I would guess the doc is probably trying to find a balance
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05-26-2019, 12:18 PM #12Junior Member
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Yes I’m aware of that and he has brought that up before. But lab work is fine just still low igf levels. So it should be fine to increase the dose right? And like I said before about a study of kids usy5mg daily. Would igf work better for me than gh or would gh still be more beneficial for me? Also any suggestions on making the gh more effective examples timing diet and what not to take while using gh like medication? Right now dosing 3x daily 2iu each dose
Morning/PW/b4 bed.
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this is silly, if you're taking 6 iu of gh a day ghrps will do literally nothing, add high doses of arginine instead, that will increase GH through a more reliable mechanism.
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05-27-2019, 01:15 AM #14
I highly highly doubt arginine could touch what Hex or CJC could do for your GH. Plus I don’t think that’s actually true that GHRP won’t do anything if your already taking GH. Hexarelin can produce an incredibly strong pulse(up to 10iu) it’s just very short lived.
Bottom line seems to be no one here so far actually knows the answer OP. Maybe its worth a try.
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05-27-2019, 01:31 PM #15
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