Depression on cycle.

[99JT]

Running test, deca , tren . The past few days I have been very depressed after my warm up yesterday I left the gym almost in tears, today i was crying in bed before i forced myself to get to the gym where I couldn't focus and just half assed my workout. I have some pretty far out goals and just don't see myself ever meeting them and have literally lost all my push and motivation and need help ASAP because this is all I've got and what I used to love to do. Got some dbol on the way hopefully getting it today so know that's what GH is going to recommend. Any other advice on getting my motivation back is greatly appreciated.

[ZYZZ LEGACY]

If you are thinking of giving up, then give up thinking.

[GearHeaded]

dbol is the answer . period

imo. its time to make a change and switch things up a bit. take on a new goal. still fitness and physique related, but something new and fresh.

I remember a couple years back after a few major surgeries and being bed ridden nearly a year and losing 40 pounds of muscle and being hooked on pain meds , I was pretty depressed with the gym. heck I owned the gym but didn't even want to show up in person because I felt so small and weak (I was also having to use an old man walker just to get around)..

feeling like a weak ass little pussy and half crippled and knowing I wasn't clear from the doc to do full body training and grow again, I decided to re focus my goal. I wanted to go from weak and broken to repping 315 on bench press (the only lift I could do in that current situation).. so thats what I did . I went to the gym and mainly only trained for the sole focus of bench press strength. I didn't care about the mirror . I only cared that my bench strength was increasing every single week..
I eventually was not using a walker to walk around my gym and was no longer having my wife load up plates for me. I hit the 315 for a couple reps.. I had gained 25 or so pounds without trying, it just came naturally with the new goal.

lol yes , picture me half crippled in my gym having to hobble around using a walker and my wife used to have to pick up and load plates for me.. but I'd still awkwardly lay down on the bench press and rep out 225 for a set of 15, even though I couldn't load the plates on the bar myself .

anyhow, my point is sometimes you may just need to re focus and adjust your goals .. depression for most men happens when your not CONQUERING something and kicking some ass . find a goal or something to conquer and kick it in the fucking ass. thats what we are built and designed to do . thats your purpose . when you lose that focus and purpose and are just spinning your wheels and not conquering shit then depression can set in

[99JT]

If you are thinking of giving up, then give up thinking.

Your the third person to tell me that.

[ZYZZ LEGACY]

Whenever you find yourself thinking, "I'm a loser, it's all over."
Question this thought, say: Fuck, it's not over, because I'm still alive in this world. "
If you were to think: Nobody likes me. Say fuck you, because you have to like yourself first. Our biggest mistake is thinking that the journey in this world will be too easy. The world will never be kind to us, either we try to become strong or we simply accept a life of mediocrity.


Seek solutions to your problems and start seeing your life with more value. Our life is not simply bodybuilding, is simply being happy with or without bodybuilding.
If weight training makes you happy, remember why you're at the gym lifting a 20lb dumbbell each. Remember one thing, bodybuilding starts in the mindset. Do you think Dorian Yates has never had personal problems? Do you think Coleman had no personal problems? Of course they did, but they gave their best in every workout because they loved bodybuilding, bodybuilding. Don't cry for nonsense, learn from the pain and get over it. Your initiative for something, has to start here in the now, remember the present will tell you who you will be in the future.

A champion or a failure, so you choose?

[ZYZZ LEGACY]

May life's defeats not be cause for discouragement. Fight today and always, only then will you become a winner.
Drugs, AAS are not the solution to your problems. The solution starts in your mindset, have a champion's mindset, of winning in this life when no one else believes in you.

[JaneDoe]

Dianabol looks good to boost your motivation.




Taking it before training will increase your blood levels in one go.




If your dianabol dose is over 30, you can take the lowest dose in the morning and the highest before training. Last month I consumed 50 mg dianabol, 20 mg dianabol in the morning and 30 mg before training. I noticed an incredible increase in strength and humor that is worth a try

[SampsonandDelilah]

Take a breath, remember the world won’t end whether we fall short or exceed our goals. Do your best and cut yourself some slack. We’re our own worst critics. Everything will be ok. Ride the highs and weather the lows...that’s the secret to life.

Additionally I would look into a quality 5HTP supplement. I’ve had great success in times like these.

Hang tough

[JaneDoe]

What are those goals that you see as distant?

[99JT]

Thanks for the support taking the day off tomorrow and going for a fresh start on Monday hopefully I can clear my head.

What are those goals that you see as distant?

Up at least 25lbs to 225 and a various strength goals but will we ever be happy. I know I need to take some time and set some short term goals.

[99JT]

dbol is the answer . period

imo. its time to make a change and switch things up a bit. take on a new goal. still fitness and physique related, but something new and fresh.

I remember a couple years back after a few major surgeries and being bed ridden nearly a year and losing 40 pounds of muscle and being hooked on pain meds , I was pretty depressed with the gym. heck I owned the gym but didn't even want to show up in person because I felt so small and weak (I was also having to use an old man walker just to get around)..

feeling like a weak ass little pussy and half crippled and knowing I wasn't clear from the doc to do full body training and grow again, I decided to re focus my goal. I wanted to go from weak and broken to repping 315 on bench press (the only lift I could do in that current situation).. so thats what I did . I went to the gym and mainly only trained for the sole focus of bench press strength. I didn't care about the mirror . I only cared that my bench strength was increasing every single week..
I eventually was not using a walker to walk around my gym and was no longer having my wife load up plates for me. I hit the 315 for a couple reps.. I had gained 25 or so pounds without trying, it just came naturally with the new goal.

lol yes , picture me half crippled in my gym having to hobble around using a walker and my wife used to have to pick up and load plates for me.. but I'd still awkwardly lay down on the bench press and rep out 225 for a set of 15, even though I couldn't load the plates on the bar myself .

anyhow, my point is sometimes you may just need to re focus and adjust your goals .. depression for most men happens when your not CONQUERING something and kicking some ass . find a goal or something to conquer and kick it in the fucking ass. thats what we are built and designed to do . thats your purpose . when you lose that focus and purpose and are just spinning your wheels and not conquering shit then depression can set in

Funny one of my goals is to bench a couple reps at 315. Any way to help with appetite eq, and mk didn't even seem to do much for me?

[GearHeaded]

Funny one of my goals is to bench a couple reps at 315. Any way to help with appetite eq, and mk didn't even seem to do much for me?

well lets get the Fk after it then and attack that goal .. I'll send you some of my bench press specific workouts to begin implementing.
if your already incline bench pressing 225 , then 315 flat bench for reps is just right around the corner.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Thanks for the support taking the day off tomorrow and going for a fresh start on Monday hopefully I can clear my head.
Up at least 25lbs to 225 and a various strength goals but will we ever be happy. I know I need to take some time and set some short term goals.

Have to love this community.

Pick up a bottle of 5HTP brother, they’re like 12-15$ US. Perfect for acute treatment and getting over a hump for mood

[99JT]

well lets get the Fk after it then and attack that goal .. I'll send you some of my bench press specific workouts to begin implementing.
if your already incline bench pressing 225 , then 315 flat bench for reps is just right around the corner.

315 bench, 405 squat and 500 deadlift is what I'm going for now. Pulled a 500 deadlift once did 365x8 last week after a long break when I hurt my back (need to strengthen my core), and hit 265x8 for my squat last week.

[Windex]

Why are you using 2 19nors without Masteron

[JaneDoe]

I do not see what you are experiencing as depression, but only a period that you are discouraged !!!!
I see stories of Ronnie Coleman and I am amazed at the focus of hope he has.
He underwent several complicated surgeries and yet did not abandon training and gym.
This strength of Ronnie is an example of who loves this sport will do everything to stay in it.

[99JT]

Why are you using 2 19nors without Masteron

Yeah gotta add that in as soon as I get it which is hopefully today.

[99JT]

I do not see what you are experiencing as depression, but only a period that you are discouraged !!!!
I see stories of Ronnie Coleman and I am amazed at the focus of hope he has.
He underwent several complicated surgeries and yet did not abandon training and gym.
This strength of Ronnie is an example of who loves this sport will do everything to stay in it.

I'm considering crying over it depression. I always have gotten pretty upset with myself if I'm not progressing and the tren is probably just making me more pissed at myself. Something I need to work on.

[Quester]

Sounds like moodiness and or, your perception is is too focused on self. The specificity of the mood disorder is secondary to the possible reason, perception of self. Consider trying to apply a lense borrowed from those around you when assessing the actions of those around you or when assessing yourself and, consider if the judgement you come to with regard to these other two strategies is the same judgement you would reach if you were judging another with all else being equal.
Next, please indulge, why are your circumstances so dependent upon a successful cycle?

[shaunjohn242002]

Drop the tren for a minute bro, Add dbol Like gear head suggested

[Obs]

I'm considering crying over it depression. I always have gotten pretty upset with myself if I'm not progressing and the tren is probably just making me more pissed at myself. Something I need to work on.

Ain't a motherfucker posting here worth more than you.
Be hard man.
Until you figure it out stay hard.

[Obs]

Also just a note...
Nearly every time I leave tren I lose my mind for weeks.
Its never the "on" or the dosage that gets me. Its the leaving that kills me.

[Obs]

Running test, deca, tren. The past few days I have been very depressed after my warm up yesterday I left the gym almost in tears, today i was crying in bed before i forced myself to get to the gym where I couldn't focus and just half assed my workout. I have some pretty far out goals and just don't see myself ever meeting them and have literally lost all my push and motivation and need help ASAP because this is all I've got and what I used to love to do. Got some dbol on the way hopefully getting it today so know that's what GH is going to recommend. Any other advice on getting my motivation back is greatly appreciated.

You are a hard gainer.
A true hard gainer.
You will reach your goals man.
Don't have doubt.
I know that feeling well. You are a screaming machine and the try you give will send results but it takes time. More for some than others. If you need any help pm me or I can give you other contact means.

Sorry I was so short the other day. I have been in kill mode lately tring to stay busy with work.
I got another mans family depending on me,as well as my own and failure hasn't been an option.

You got this brother.

[Test Monsterone]

I agree, Obs. Getting off of gear is the hardest. I haven’t taken a shot in 10 days and I’m one angry, sleepless son of a bitch.

OP, I’ve been disappointed over not seeing the results I want. My suggestion is to continue training and take it easy on the hardcore steroids . Stick to the basics; test, deca , etc. Realize that life is more than just lifting. If you’re sole focus is on achieving a physical feat, then you are wasting the thing between your ears. Pursue a real goal like a career, a business, an education... something more than a squat or deadlift PR. If you ever get to be old, all those numbers won’t matter. What will matter is that you developed a comfortable life for yourself and the ones you love. Steroids and the gym are an interesting hobby, and should not be the sole purpose of a man’s life.

[Windex]

Yeah gotta add that in as soon as I get it which is hopefully today.

I think it will help. As others have said lowering or pulling tren may be beneficial as well.

Good Luck.

[sv.elia]

Been there, maybe I still am. As funny as it sounds, just pretend you have no soul and do what you have to do like a robot. You can't force enthusiasm, especially on tren

[XnavyHMCS]

If you are thinking of giving up, then give up thinking.

I LOVE IT!!!!!

THIS, is GOLD!!!

54yo, and I don't think I ever heard that one...

[99JT]

Thanks everyone feeling quite a bit better. You guys are truly like family when it comes to helping and supporting each other maybe a bit dysfunctional at times but that just makes it exciting.

[i_SLAM_cougars]

well lets get the Fk after it then and attack that goal .. I'll send you some of my bench press specific workouts to begin implementing.
if your already incline bench pressing 225 , then 315 flat bench for reps is just right around the corner.

send that over here lol

[i_SLAM_cougars]

If you’re getting depressed on cycle, I have to question your cycle. Chances are it’s just set up for shit. I have heard some people say that deca makes them depressed. I personally don’t experience that, but I supposed it’s something people should be aware of. If this becomes a persistent thing, maybe try dropping the deca our, leaving everything else is place, and seeing how that goes.

If you’re in a funk, I would think the quickest way out of it is to blast your test and throw in some dbol . That always makes me feel like a million bucks. It’s hard not to feel awesome when you’re literally all that is man.

Keep is up to date on this please

[XnavyHMCS]

So what gives here on the Dbol ?

Does it have psychotropic properties? Is it just the AAS action on the body that lifts the user out of the emotional slump?

I always feel like a million bucks when I am gassing, but I wasn't aware of anything specifically connected to Dbol.

I never had any negative sides from Deca either. Perhaps because my doses are rather on lower end of the spectrum.

Any answers would be appreciated.

And by the way, this forum is a goldmine of info and assistance. Chapeau Bas a GH, Windex, Cape, Obs, Beetle, Samson.... The list of notables is long here.

[99JT]

On the bright side hit a PR of 225x4 on incline bench last week and 225x7 with very little assistance on the 8th rep today. Starting to think my main issue progressing is I just keep lifting what I'm comfortable lifting.

[GearHeaded]

So what gives here on the Dbol ?

Does it have psychotropic properties? Is it just the AAS action on the body that lifts the user out of the emotional slump?

I always feel like a million bucks when I am gassing, but I wasn't aware of anything specifically connected to Dbol.

I never had any negative sides from Deca either. Perhaps because my doses are rather on lower end of the spectrum.

Any answers would be appreciated.

And by the way, this forum is a goldmine of info and assistance. Chapeau Bas a GH, Windex, Cape, Obs, Beetle, Samson.... The list of notables is long here.

Dbol was used in like the late 50s early 60s as an anti depressant. it does have mood enhancement qualities to it. this is why I like to use it as a pre workout , I just feel good and focused and have a sense of well being when running moderate dosage Dbol.. I think its potent estrogen properties also play a factor in this .
but I'm uninformed as to why exactly Dbol is so quick acting as a mild anti depressant . I just know it was used for that, and even though its no longer used in medicine (and is contraband), plenty of guys experience the same mood enhancing benefits from it in its recreational use.

[Gallowmere]

Dbol was used in like the late 50s early 60s as an anti depressant. it does have mood enhancement qualities to it. this is why I like to use it as a pre workout , I just feel good and focused and have a sense of well being when running moderate dosage Dbol.. I think its potent estrogen properties also play a factor in this .
but I'm uninformed as to why exactly Dbol is so quick acting as a mild anti depressant . I just know it was used for that, and even though its no longer used in medicine (and is contraband), plenty of guys experience the same mood enhancing benefits from it in its recreational use.

I would definitely be curious as to what the real mechanism is behind it. I’d almost be willing to bet that it’s the specific “frankenhormone” that it metabolizes into (methyl estradiol), because we really don’t see that from anything else that’s commonly used anymore. Oral test went the way of the dodo forever ago, and everything else methylated doesn’t aromatize for shit (or at all).

[GearHeaded]

agree with that possibility. the estrogen from Dbol is a lot more bioavailable and 'potent' then E2. the brain is filled with estrogen receptors. perhaps methyl estradiol has a very strong affinity to E receptors in the brain and causes a feeling of well being.

part of the reason why Tren has a lot of negative mental side effects (especially when taken solo or with an AI) , is because it does not armoatize at all and its 5x more androgenic then test and it will flood your brains androgen receptors and you'll essentially be 'androgen dominant' with no Estrogen to counter balance the mental effects.

Drop your AI , add some Test and some Dbol to your Tren cycle . and guess what. you suddenly have much less mental anguish issues because the estrogen is counter balancing the mental effects in the brain of high androgen loads.


so yes, think Dbols mental benefits have to do with its protent form of estrogen it converts to

[99JT]

agree with that possibility. the estrogen from Dbol is a lot more bioavailable and 'potent' then E2. the brain is filled with estrogen receptors. perhaps methyl estradiol has a very strong affinity to E receptors in the brain and causes a feeling of well being.

part of the reason why Tren has a lot of negative mental side effects (especially when taken solo or with an AI) , is because it does not armoatize at all and its 5x more androgenic then test and it will flood your brains androgen receptors and you'll essentially be 'androgen dominant' with no Estrogen to counter balance the mental effects.

Drop your AI , add some Test and some Dbol to your Tren cycle . and guess what. you suddenly have much less mental anguish issues because the estrogen is counter balancing the mental effects in the brain of high androgen loads.


so yes, think Dbols mental benefits have to do with its protent form of estrogen it converts to

I was running dbol pre workout ran out last week then things went to shit and I was so angry. Took some Saturday night and started feeling better Sunday.

[XnavyHMCS]

Dbol was used in like the late 50s early 60s as an anti depressant. it does have mood enhancement qualities to it. this is why I like to use it as a pre workout , I just feel good and focused and have a sense of well being when running moderate dosage Dbol.. I think its potent estrogen properties also play a factor in this .
but I'm uninformed as to why exactly Dbol is so quick acting as a mild anti depressant . I just know it was used for that, and even though its no longer used in medicine (and is contraband), plenty of guys experience the same mood enhancing benefits from it in its recreational use.

Right-on bro!!!

Thanks again.

[99JT]

still a bit iffy with mood randomly getting pissed at people for no reason probably high estrogen combined with the tren . other than that weight is finally steadily increasing and my bench is way up compared to a few weeks ago, messed up my lower back so unfortunately squats and deads are out of the question for now hopefully its good next week. personally i haven't noticed any visual difference but others have, and my work uniform that i have not worn in over a month no longer fits (tight around the chest and lats). only issue ive had is some nausea and feeling prety fatigue unless im in the gym. i should really just start a log for my cycle.

[Obs]

still a bit iffy with mood randomly getting pissed at people for no reason probably high estrogen combined with the tren. other than that weight is finally steadily increasing and my bench is way up compared to a few weeks ago, messed up my lower back so unfortunately squats and deads are out of the question for now hopefully its good next week. personally i haven't noticed any visual difference but others have, and my work uniform that i have not worn in over a month no longer fits (tight around the chest and lats). only issue ive had is some nausea and feeling prety fatigue unless im in the gym. i should really just start a log for my cycle.

Add ephefrine and energy drinks.
Monitor bp.

When it pushes you push back harder!

Thats how you lay meat on in layers

[99JT]

Ok definitely dropping the tren my mood has been all over the place and I'm taking my anger out on the ones I love for me it's just not worth it.