Supplements for loweering Rbc hct

[transilvania]

After a 7 month low dose cycle with dbol 20 mg ed 4 weeks on 6 off
1-24 125mgx2 test cyp
1-8 125mgx2 deca
9-16 125mgx2 eq
17-24 100mgx2 tren e
25-28 50mg test prop 100mg maste 3 times week . No AI for the entire time

All my blood work came perfectly ,cholesterol ,kidney ,liver values the only thing as i expect was high rbc , hct ,hgb ,my ferritin was lower and i stop donate blood this year ,i read on this and another forums that some guys use with succes grapefruit seed extract , green Tea extract ,naringin ,one some insta post of Dante trudel talk about some ace inhibitor enalapril use with succes to lower hct numbers and ip6,right now in my supplements stack i have red yeast rice ,niacin,nac, astragalus ,5 ml fish oil with 1800 mg epa&dha ,100 mg baby aspirin after my heart attack and 2.5 mg perindopril ace inhibitor and 2.5 mg bystolic.
On the morning of bloodwork i only drink 200 ml water 15 min before so not well hidrated , but the next day after my results came out I went straight to donate blood and start to take another 100 mg baby aspirin after talking with a friend who is hematologist(blood specialist ) doctor kinda scare me...today after 2 weeks off i start dr dean pct , on this forum I found some of the best tips in lowering my cholesterol, liver enzymes, so I'm curious what supplements you have used successfully in lowering rbc hct hgb numbers ??

[transilvania]

I start the cycle at 190 lbs ,finish the tren at 210 lbs and 205lbs after masteron ,at 38yo and 6 ft ,heavy weight was 3,5 years ago at the time of heart attack 240 lbs but kinda fat from all the junk food,this pic is the last day of the cycle i dont know what my bf % is

[< <Samson> >]

Supplements don’t lower Rbc or hemoglobin

That is a bit high tho

Makes me feel better about my 16.9

[transilvania]

Supplements don’t lower Rbc or hemoglobin

That is a bit high tho

Makes me feel better about my 16.9

And a see alot more who had succes with these supplements, i guess im gona try and see..

[transilvania]

Supplements don’t lower Rbc or hemoglobin

That is a bit high tho

Makes me feel better about my 16.9

And a see alot more who had succes with these supplements, i guess im gona try and see..

[SampsonandDelilah]

Donate blood on the regular...takes mine from 54ish to sub 50’s

[transilvania]

Donate blood on the regular...takes mine from 54ish to sub 50’s

The problem as i sayd my ferritine was lower and another problem my last 2 donation last year got by ALT elevated from training and statins ,even dbol when i use it in the past dont got my liver enzyme out of normal range like statins (they stay elevated 6 months after stoping statins until i use nac ,use before Liv 52 ,milk thystle with no succes) and they tell me that my blood is not good for use and next time if i want to donate to get my ALT numbers in range thats why i did not donate this year ...

[SampsonandDelilah]

The problem as i sayd my ferritine was lower and another problem my last 2 donation last year got by ALT elevated from training and statins ,even dbol when i use it in the past dont got my liver enzyme out of normal range like statins (they stay elevated 6 months after stoping statins until i use nac ,use before Liv 52 ,milk thystle with no succes) and they tell me that my blood is not good for use and next time if i want to donate to get my ALT numbers in range thats why i did not donate this year ...

Would not concern myself with elevated ALT numbers, protein from muscle breakdown is excreted through the liver and are notorious for skewing ALT/AST results. Are you saying they won’t accept your blood as is or you worry that after donation your values are elevated?

[lundgren]

The problem as i sayd my ferritine was lower and another problem my last 2 donation last year got by ALT elevated from training and statins ,even dbol when i use it in the past dont got my liver enzyme out of normal range like statins (they stay elevated 6 months after stoping statins until i use nac ,use before Liv 52 ,milk thystle with no succes) and they tell me that my blood is not good for use and next time if i want to donate to get my ALT numbers in range thats why i did not donate this year ...

It's right.
For exemple Anadrol push the RBC and lower the Iron level, some people made the same things with Deca .

Bolde are not a high steroid on the paper but 100-150mg of Undecylenate / 10 days push the RBC very well.

Your level are very high, your blood look like syrup at this level .... It's not great!

Your need to donate some blood or to bleed in the hospital.

With 200mg of Boldenone / week my RBC level have up from 46 to 52 in 6 weeks (with 250mg Sustanon / week)

[transilvania]

I donate 450 ml the next day after got my results ,i know in usa they can reject you from blood donation if your rbc is over 6.0 ,but there is no problem , yesterday i start 1000 ui hcg eod for 10 inj and i was thinking to try some of the supplements Dante trudel sugest to see how they work ...

[Ashop]

I donate 450 ml the next day after got my results ,i know in usa they can reject you from blood donation if your rbc is over 6.0 ,but there is no problem , yesterday i start 1000 ui hcg eod for 10 inj and i was thinking to try some of the supplements Dante trudel sugest to see how they work ...

DANTE knows his stuff so I wouldnt hesitate to try his advice. The only thing I have seen that lowered it was lowing dosages or giving blood.
If you try DANTE's protocol keep us updated on how it works for you.

[Honkey_Kong]

I start the cycle at 190 lbs ,finish the tren at 210 lbs and 205lbs after masteron ,at 38yo and 6 ft ,heavy weight was 3,5 years ago at the time of heart attack 240 lbs but kinda fat from all the junk food,this pic is the last day of the cycle i dont know what my bf % is

Hold up a second.. Heart attack? Dude, I really don't know if doing gear is a good idea for you.

[transilvania]

Hold up a second.. Heart attack? Dude, I really don't know if doing gear is a good idea for you.

Yeah ,i have an entire post about this ,long story short ,after 15 years with 1-2 cycle year after heart attack i stop all cold turkey ,felling as i expect like Dog shit can get an erection Even with cialis or viagra ,1 month after i start a pct and stay off for about 7 months ,my hormonal level return to normal free test was 13 from acrenge to 1-28 pg/ml but still feeling like shit ,after i see 3 endo nobody want to put me on trt ( in my contry they are 100 years back ,and nobody is on trt ) So i start myself 200 mg test cyp split in 2 inj ,feeling like a new man ,my abdominal fat dissaper ,my fasting blood sugar got low ( was elevatetd 100) i stay on for 12 weeks and pct again ,i dont think my heart attack has much to do with gear as my cycle was nothing big max 1000 mg week 500 test 400 deca or tren ,but i eat alot of junk food and fast food ,alot of pre workout supplements ,the cardiologist dr who is a friend of mine check my heart every 6 months ,6 months after MI and stent implant my heart was complet recover with no damage , on my last check my dr dont belive after he see my cholesterol level that i dont take statins and got that lower only with red yeast rice and niacin ...

[transilvania]

Would not concern myself with elevated ALT numbers, protein from muscle breakdown is excreted through the liver and are notorious for skewing ALT/AST results. Are you saying they won’t accept your blood as is or you worry that after donation your values are elevated?

They reject you from blood donation if your ALT is elevated but got them down and donate 1 week ago ,i dont got blood work now because i finish my cycle and start 2 days ago hcg ,im about to try some supplements now to see how they work .(sorry my bad english

[SampsonandDelilah]

They reject you from blood donation if your ALT is elevated but got them down and donate 1 week ago ,i dont got blood work now because i finish my cycle and start 2 days ago hcg ,im about to try some supplements now to see how they work .(sorry my bad english

Your English is great. Hope the supplements work for you, keep us posted that way others can benefit from your experiences. Congratulations on your recovery as well

Best of luck

[Beetlegeuse]

RBCs are created in bone marrow, live about four months and then 'die.' Any attempt to interfere with that cycle necessarily would involve either monkeying with the marrow's rate of RBC production or causing the cells to expire prematurely. And since the regularity of both of those functions is essential to continuing to live, IMHO it would be safer to just slit your wrist once every few weeks.

[transilvania]

RBCs are created in bone marrow, live about four months and then 'die.' Any attempt to interfere with that cycle necessarily would involve either monkeying with the marrow's rate of RBC production or causing the cells to expire prematurely. And since the regularity of both of those functions is essential to continuing to live, IMHO it would be safer to just slit your wrist once every few weeks.

There are some studies showing that repeted plembotomy cause the bone marrow to produce more red blood cell ,Dante post one study but i can find it about people going back to plembotomize with higher rbc numbers than previous blood donation ,Dave palumbo say something similar and someway make sense ...i remember a few years ago a medical nurse tell me the same thing ,but who knows...and almost forget i read on some trt forums guys who got back high rbc hct leveles after 1 week from donate blood.

[transilvania]

Your English is great. Hope the supplements work for you, keep us posted that way others can benefit from your experiences. Congratulations on your recovery as well

Best of luck

Thank you !!! I think i will start from the next week to see whats happening at least i will know if they work with a small amount of androgen from hcg ,i read on some trt forums and i know a friend who got rbc and hct slightly elevated from hcg 500 ui X3 times week ,hopefully if they work in pct With hcg it will work on some low amounts of trt ,after i lower my cholesterol with a protocol from this forum much better than with statins and with no side effects ,natural supplements gain my respect ��

[< <Samson> >]

There are some studies showing that repeted plembotomy cause the bone marrow to produce more red blood cell ,Dante post one study but i can find it about people going back to plembotomize with higher rbc numbers than previous blood donation ,Dave palumbo say something similar and someway make sense ...i remember a few years ago a medical nurse tell me the same thing ,but who knows...and almost forget i read on some trt forums guys who got back high rbc hct leveles after 1 week from donate blood.

Causes anemia

When I was juicing away, I donated every 2-3 months. . . They loved me. But, it skewed my whole blood work. . . My RDW was way out of wack. After stopping the mega doses, I slowed down on my donating also - about, 6 months to a year everything went back to normal - aside from my HCT being a tad higher than normal acceptable levels