Less pain testosterone injection

[bkris]

I know the painless testosterone injection may not be possible but my goal is less pain testosterone injection. Researching for my first cycle (beginners cycle in the stickies) and thinking this two step process:

Step 1: Get Test-E 400mg/ml and take 0.625 ml to get 250mg (weekly twice).

Step 2: Get 27g (considering the targeted volume) 1" needle and do it IM.

Is there any better way to do this? Thanks in advance.

[Wannabhuge14]

I know the painless testosterone injection may not be possible but my goal is less pain testosterone injection. Researching for my first cycle (beginners cycle in the stickies) and thinking this two step process:

Step 1: Get Test-E 400mg/ml and take 0.625 ml to get 250mg (weekly twice).

Step 2: Get 27g (considering the targeted volume) 1" needle and do it IM.

Is there any better way to do this? Thanks in advance.

If you don't want pip, stay away from 400mg/ml. Ouch

[bkris]

If you don't want pip, stay away from 400mg/ml. Ouch

Can you please elaborate why? My rationale is less time to inject, therefore 400mg/ml will be 0.625cc as opposed to one whole cc of 250mg/ml.

[almostgone]

Can you please elaborate why? My rationale is less time to inject, therefore 400mg/ml will be 0.625cc as opposed to one whole cc of 250mg/ml.

You're not allowing for the volume of the carrier oil. .625cc of T400 is much more likely to have a little bite vs. 1cc of 200mg/ml of test cypionate .

[almostgone]

PIP can be caused by many factors and one of those factors is concentration per ml of the carrier oil.

[bkris]

PIP can be caused by many factors and one of those factors is concentration per ml of the carrier oil.

Gotcha. I will stick with Test Enan 250mg/ml then. Any recommendation on needle? I am considering 27g 1"

[almostgone]

Pretend you were mixing up a Jack D and Diet Coke. Which one has more zing? One mixed with 2 shots of Jack
and 4 oz. of diet Coke or the one mixed with 2 shots of Jack and 2.5 oz. of diet Coke?

[almostgone]

Gotcha. I will stick with Test Enan 250mg/ml then. Any recommendation on needle? I am considering 27g 1"

I like 23G x 1 for IM shots. Some guys like 25 x1. In general, the smaller the needle diameter, the slower you can inject.

The gage of the needle has nerve been an issue for me.

Some guys go sub-q and use 27 or 29, but they're usually injecting very small volumes.

[bkris]

I like 23G x 1 for IM shots. Some guys like 25 x1. In general, the smaller the needle diameter, the slower you can inject.

The gage of the needle has nerve been an issue for me.

Some guys go sub-q and use 27 or 29, but they're usually injecting very small volumes.

Do you think there would be any difference between 23G and 25G in terms of scarring the tissues?

[almostgone]

Little to none with proper injection site rotation.

[Honkey_Kong]

Do you think there would be any difference between 23G and 25G in terms of scarring the tissues?

I've never noticed any difference. I will tell you with the 25G, I end up putting more force on the plunger to get the gear out. And maybe it's the faster velocity stream at the needle tip or that in fighting with the plunger, I'm forcing the needle back and forth in the muscle a lot more, but I usually end up more sore than if I would've just used the 23G.

[bkris]

I've never noticed any difference. I will tell you with the 25G, I end up putting more force on the plunger to get the gear out. And maybe it's the faster velocity stream at the needle tip or that in fighting with the plunger, I'm forcing the needle back and forth in the muscle a lot more, but I usually end up more sore than if I would've just used the 23G.

That's a fair point! Thanks for sharing