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    Tren + Breathing Problems

    I've run 400 Tren E with 400 Test E ew a few cycles years ago and always had shortness of breath in the evenings. Went to the doc and all is good with my lungs. I had a horrible time sleeping, mainly because I couldn't take full deep breaths.

    I am 5 weeks into a cycle of 200 Tren E and 400 Test E ew and noticed shortness of breaths coming back....anybody else have similar issues with Tren?

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    Tren affects my cardio/breathing as well. I usually pull a CBC just to make sure my HCT isn't excessively elevated and my platelet count is in range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tin-Man View Post
    I've run 400 Tren E with 400 Test E ew a few cycles years ago and always had shortness of breath in the evenings. Went to the doc and all is good with my lungs. I had a horrible time sleeping, mainly because I couldn't take full deep breaths.

    I am 5 weeks into a cycle of 200 Tren E and 400 Test E ew and noticed shortness of breaths coming back....anybody else have similar issues with Tren?

    Every single time….

    Shortness of breath, insomnia and heartburn/nausea
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    I use an albuterol inhaler. I'm not sure if it's psychological or if it's actually because with the bronchiole tubes being a dilated I can get more air in, but it certainly helps.
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    My gym has an elevator, I shit you not when I say that I consider taking it daily
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    Have read a lot about Cardarine (GW501516) and it’s positive impact circumventing the cardio issues with Tren but have never tried it. Been crossing my mind a lot lately as it is thought to increase vascularity…it could help in boosting your endurance level and that gassing effect tren has.

    Not advocating, just sharing
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    ...and then there's the whole tren sweating.
    Gotta love it.


    For the stomach issues, Pepto-Bismol tabs give me some relief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    ...and then there's the whole tren sweating.
    Gotta love it.


    For the stomach issues, Pepto-Bismol tabs give me some relief.

    Oh shit, how did I forget to mention the sweating?! Or my wife constantly nagging me that I’m a sweaty pig that requires his own laundry basket and daily changing of the bed sheets!

    I’ve been on a combo of Pepcid AC, tums, Pepto and Maalox.

    I’m basically terrified to fart
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Have read a lot about Cardarine (GW501516) and itís positive impact circumventing the cardio issues with Tren but have never tried it. Been crossing my mind a lot lately as it is thought to increase vascularityÖit could help in boosting your endurance level and that gassing effect tren has.

    Not advocating, just sharing
    As I was reading through the thread, I thought of Cardarine and was going to ask if anyone had used it. I gather that the cancer concerns are either WAY overblown or yeah, if you take it you will die - there is no middle ground lol! I tend toward believing the first, but don't have any experience with it, either.
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    Tren + Breathing Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    As I was reading through the thread, I thought of Cardarine and was going to ask if anyone had used it. I gather that the cancer concerns are either WAY overblown or yeah, if you take it you will die - there is no middle ground lol! I tend toward believing the first, but don't have any experience with it, either.
    I love cardarine effects but I take it rarely and sometimes in half doses cause Iím scared of the cancer risks. I lean towards risk being overblown like Cyclon said but just donít know for sure.

    For cardio cardarine is nuts. I can run to the point Iím about to puke on it and normally my body wants me to stop way before that. For lifting it makes me want to do extra lifts when Iíd normally be tired and done.

    Charger made a good point a while back about how if cardarine works so good and didnít have risks a major pharm company wouldnít have bailed on it.

    My bro science harm reduction has been to use it sparingly. I wish we knew it was safe because it is an amazing compound to use.

    *edit: also Iím not on tren . If I ever worked up to using tren I wouldnít mind taking daily for 4-6 weeks but right now it just isnít worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinAZ View Post
    I love cardarine effects but I take it rarely and sometimes in half doses cause Iím scared of the cancer risks. I lean towards risk being overblown like Cyclon said but just donít know for sure.

    For cardio cardarine is nuts. I can run to the point Iím about to puke on it and normally my body wants me to stop way before that. For lifting it makes me want to do extra lifts when Iíd normally be tired and done.

    Charger made a good point a while back about how if cardarine works so good and didnít have risks a major pharm company wouldnít have bailed on it.

    My bro science harm reduction has been to use it sparingly. I wish we knew it was safe because it is an amazing compound to use.
    I've been in the corporate world for close to 30 years. Not in pharma, but corporate all the same. There could be dozens of really bad reasons big pharma isn't pursuing it right now. They don't think they can make money, they just want to sit on the patent because it competes with one of their established products, the manager slept with the director's wife in college, the list goes on.

    Of course, it COULD also be that it is as cancerous as (insert carcinogen here), but I would look at a long list of things before I completely belive that is why development has been halted.

    Edited to avoid political diatribe about 'that carcinogen does not cause cancer!!' Just fill in the blank with something you DO think causes cancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Oh shit, how did I forget to mention the sweating?! Or my wife constantly nagging me that I’m a sweaty pig that requires his own laundry basket and daily changing of the bed sheets!

    I’ve been on a combo of Pepcid AC, tums, Pepto and Maalox.

    I’m basically terrified to fart
    Dude 40 mg of Prilosec changed my life. I used to have to sleep so propped up on pillows I was practically sitting up.

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    I work in big pharma…I have for 20+ years and there’s a myriad of reasons why companies abandon certain compounds. Most of the carcinogenic data with Cardarine had to do with a couple of rat studies, it was also at extremely high dosages for extended periods of time in a small rodent population. Not discounting the potential, but you always have to question the methodology.

    Look at BPA’s in plastic or any number of cancer causing compounds that we are exposed to every day.

    My cancer was chalked up as “environmental”, that alone should tell you we don’t have a clue on what we’re exposed to every day.

    Starting to ramble a bit, but at some point we have to accept that so much of what is deemed “safe” truly isn’t and not matter what choices we make, there is always a risk and reward ratio.

    Your predisposition can’t be underestimated either.


    And HK, I’m rocking 40 of Prilosec now and still struggling. I think my gut health from the radiation isn’t helping matters either. FML

    I’m looking good though, tren works
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    ...and then there's the whole tren sweating.
    Gotta love it.


    For the stomach issues, Pepto-Bismol tabs give me some relief.

    first, from my first or second shot of tren ace at 50mg I start losing breath. Now I smoke but it hits me right away.
    the sweat is like from the movie alien. it stains everything it touches. I change shirts midway thru workouts while wearing a comp tank under the shirt.
    sweat during sex is the worst IMO, wife hates it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    first, from my first or second shot of tren ace at 50mg I start losing breath. Now I smoke but it hits me right away.
    the sweat is like from the movie alien. it stains everything it touches. I change shirts midway thru workouts while wearing a comp tank under the shirt.
    sweat during sex is the worst IMO, wife hates it.

    Yep, I learned to lay a towel off to the side of the wife's pillow so I could blot my face and keep business in operation.
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    we keep hand towels at arm reach during that time.lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Every single time….

    Shortness of breath, insomnia and heartburn/nausea
    I'm assuming the effect is dose dependent?

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    off course it gets worst the higher I go but at 30-50mg eod I am feeling the strain.

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    I think I probably maculinised parts of my brain on my highest doses of Tren . Wouldn't be surprised if I'm better able to read maps and less able to cook Christmas dinner.

    Never got breathing problems. Not sure if my cardio suffered as I wasn't doing cardio.

    Feelings of intense rage in response to small annoyances (although these feelings were in the background and fortunately didn't burst through the surface).

    Insomnia was a problem but I was able to reduce it significantly by drinking more water. (At one point I had come to the conclusion that Trensomnia is caused by dehydration).

    I'm enjoying running public half-marathons now at this point in my life, so maybe Tren isn't in future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Have read a lot about Cardarine (GW501516) and it’s positive impact circumventing the cardio issues with Tren but have never tried it. Been crossing my mind a lot lately as it is thought to increase vascularity…it could help in boosting your endurance level and that gassing effect tren has.

    Not advocating, just sharing
    I tried the cardarine with the tren... 10mg ed while I was on tren 525 ace ew.. I didn't notice... I mean I didn't notice anything regarding the cardarine.... maybe I was on too many things at once and feeling everything? but the cardarine didn't pop or it wasn't easy to see anything positive from it... =/ I say you should still try it for yourself who knows... maybe i got bunk stuff or maybe it doesn't work as well on me... or i was just on too many other compounds... eg.. test- 525mg ew tren 525mg ew mast 725ew proviron 75mg ed

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    Tren ... Gotta be really healthy substance we are using and abusing, gents... And here I am reading, countering the adverse effects of one "questionable" substance with another, perhaps equally suspect medication... Any sane individual (and that ain't me) would question, WTF are these guys doing...

    SOB (not son of a bitch but, shortness of breath) has always been a killer for me, on the Tren cycles I have run. I believe it was Reds, from Canada, who said that if you are religiously doing your cardio, the SOB is reduced... I can't answer that, because I am not doing a lot of cardio, unless of course if we are counting the deep, prolonged and meaningful anal intercourse (FYI, I am pitching, NOT catching...). I would sometimes cough in the gym like I was battling Covid...

    The indigestion has been the most negative side, for me. Constant acid reflux... Don't combine Tren with any ED meds (Viagra / Cialis). For me, taking the "man pill" in conjunction with Tren, is nearly always a guarantee to visit the porcelain god several hours post-orgasm. On Tren I would wake up in the night, my mouth flooded with saliva, and dash to the head (toilet).

    These two factors, SOB and nausea, have made me seriously consider eliminating this from my cycles.

    I never experienced excessive sweating (even during sex, and you can bet your ass, I am putting out), so I can't give any input here.

    Yeah, Tren; you gotta love it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS View Post
    I never experienced excessive sweating (even during sex, and you can bet your ass, I am putting out), so I can't give any input here.
    I even got sweats on testosterone alone.
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    Very often. I use otrivin. Dont know if u american guys have another word for otrivin, but is a OTC noseopener.
    At work and even in the evening jerking off using tren , and it feels like im chocking myself and heart is going to stop, otrivin helps.
    Pretty safe, although u shouldnt use it continously. It opens the capillars in the nose, making oxygen flow much much more easier. Just what your treninfected system needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Very often. I use otrivin. Dont know if u american guys have another word for otrivin, but is a OTC noseopener.
    At work and even in the evening jerking off using tren , and it feels like im chocking myself and heart is going to stop, otrivin helps.
    Pretty safe, although u shouldnt use it continously. It opens the capillars in the nose, making oxygen flow much much more easier. Just what your treninfected system needs.

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    We call it “Afrin” here and I use it intermittently too. Cialis gives me really bad congestion as well, and it’s a savior when I’m on Tren and a boner pill.

    Like Navy said, those two don’t play well. I keep the Afrin on hand along with some different stomach meds. Oh the things we do…
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    We call it “Afrin” here and I use it intermittently too. Cialis gives me really bad congestion as well, and it’s a savior when I’m on Tren and a boner pill.

    Like Navy said, those two don’t play well. I keep the Afrin on hand along with some different stomach meds. Oh the things we do…
    Chapeau bas, to you 2 gents, S & D and AR's King Silabolin.

    You guys are solving problems for me...
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    The best is when you're trying to eat her pussy and you can't breathe the whole time cause Cialis got you in a headlock. I'm gonna try the Afrin and see what it does. I tried Nasacort, Zicam, and some other ones and they don't work for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    We call it ďAfrinĒ here and I use it intermittently too. Cialis gives me really bad congestion as well, and itís a savior when Iím on Tren and a boner pill.

    Like Navy said, those two donít play well. I keep the Afrin on hand along with some different stomach meds. Oh the things we doÖ
    Hold the phone. Cialis has a side effect of stuffy nose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    The best is when you're trying to eat her pussy and you can't breathe the whole time cause Cialis got you in a headlock. I'm gonna try the Afrin and see what it does. I tried Nasacort, Zicam, and some other ones and they don't work for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Hold the phone. Cialis has a side effect of stuffy nose?
    It can for some people. It did for me when I first started it a couple of years ago (5mg daily "for BPH" - It helps to have a cool doc). I just broke them in half and took one in AM, one in PM. I eventually got used to it and just take 5mg in the AM now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Hold the phone. Cialis has a side effect of stuffy nose?

    Absolutely known for nasal congestion…it’s listed in their package insert under “adverse events”, also listed is dyspepsia.

    So add that on top of Tren and it’s a recipe for gut rot and difficulty breathing.

    When I do take Cialis (which I prefer over its little blue cousin) I’m popping between 15 and 20 mg’s and the nasal congestion gets brutal. Getting face fucked feels like you’re being suffocated (which I actually think is sexy, just don’t want to pass out underneath my lady’s ass)

    That’s why my “fuck kit” has Afrin (or otrivin, as I’ve recently learned) Pepcid AC and Pepto
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Absolutely known for nasal congestion…it’s listed in their package insert under “adverse events”, also listed is dyspepsia.

    So add that on top of Tren and it’s a recipe for gut rot and difficulty breathing.

    When I do take Cialis (which I prefer over its little blue cousin) I’m popping between 15 and 20 mg’s and the nasal congestion gets brutal. Getting face fucked feels like you’re being suffocated (which I actually think is sexy, just don’t want to pass out underneath my lady’s ass)

    That’s why my “fuck kit” has Afrin (or otrivin, as I’ve recently learned) Pepcid AC and Pepto
    Fucking Right-on brother...!!! NOW we are speaking my language...!!!

    Gent's, this thread has potential...!!!

    (As I leave for the pharmacy, with Afrin on the list...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS View Post
    Fucking Right-on brother...!!! NOW we are speaking my language...!!!

    Gent's, this thread has potential...!!!

    (As I leave for the pharmacy, with Afrin on the list...)

    You’re just the best brother…
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Thatís why my ďfuck kitĒ has Afrin (or otrivin, as Iíve recently learned) Pepcid AC and Pepto
    ďFuck kitĒ, lmao. Ok, you got my attention here. What else is in this thing?
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    Definitely never had any shortness of breath to the point you guys are suggesting....I think I'd freak out thinking I was in heart failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    “Fuck kit”, lmao. Ok, you got my attention here. What else is in this thing?
    Boner pills, Afrin, stomach meds, PT-141, breath mints, Jimmy hats, ky. Just the boyscout in me
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Boner pills, Afrin, stomach meds, PT-141, breath mints, Jimmy hats, ky. Just the boyscout in me
    Come on brother...??? You gotta be "holding out" on us.

    What about the TOYS?

    My loadout, when I am informed in advance that "tonight is a HOT night" consists of a plethora of sex toys, along with "the man-pill". I will certainly add to my "bag of tricks" Afrin (The shit you can learn here on the forum...) for the sinus issues that accompany this miracle medication.

    But, the toys, gentlemen..... Ahhhhhhhhh, the toys...... We could have a whole thread / discussion about this topic (Sure to be locked, as I believe that in today's PC culture we couldn't have an open, frank discussion concerning this subject. Due to the fact that somebody, perhaps one of our esteemed female members, would get offended, or Admin / Mods would deem such a topic as in appropriate... Too bad, because such a subject has conversational potential here, with such members .

    OK, excuse me for getting sidetracked.

    RuhlFreak55: I wish I could say that Tren didn't effect my breathing. I could live with the SOB, but the indigestion and nausea is just a killer.

    Here again we see that effects and secondary effects (side effects) vary between users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS View Post
    Come on brother...??? You gotta be "holding out" on us.

    What about the TOYS?

    My loadout, when I am informed in advance that "tonight is a HOT night" consists of a plethora of sex toys, along with "the man-pill". I will certainly add to my "bag of tricks" Afrin (The shit you can learn here on the forum...) for the sinus issues that accompany this miracle medication.

    But, the toys, gentlemen..... Ahhhhhhhhh, the toys...... We could have a whole thread / discussion about this topic (Sure to be locked, as I believe that in today's PC culture we couldn't have an open, frank discussion concerning this subject. Due to the fact that somebody, perhaps one of our esteemed female members, would get offended, or Admin / Mods would deem such a topic as in appropriate... Too bad, because such a subject has conversational potential here, with such members .

    OK, excuse me for getting sidetracked.

    RuhlFreak55: I wish I could say that Tren didn't effect my breathing. I could live with the SOB, but the indigestion and nausea is just a killer.

    Here again we see that effects and secondary effects (side effects) vary between users.
    Oh Navy, I’m an absolute fan of the toys! I roger that loud and clear. I just don’t have them in the kit and if I’m being honest, I let my playmate cover those bases. Not opposed to always being prepared but luckily I haven’t been called upon in a very long time to have one on the ready. (I do long for the day when I hear “what do you mean you don’t have a riding crop and a butt plug with you”?!) Lol

    100% on the indigestion. Tren makes me a lady killer though, but the sides can be disruptive. Between 4-500 mgs, I produce just enough prolactin to turn me into a savage. Now there have been times I thought I would either spontaneously combust (due to how hot it makes me run or from the friction fire it takes to cross the finish line) but man I can go for days which sadly isn’t always the case without it on board (my two pump chump days are behind me but with Tren on board I give gold medal performances for sustainability)

    The problem is with the nausea, trensomnia and other funk it brings, I debate on whether it’s really all worth it). When I was younger for sure…these days, debatable. The last run was the first time I’ve pulled up camp before the 10 week mark, I hit 6 and was over it. So over it. Also dealing with a new type of stomach, so there’s that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    Oh Navy, I’m an absolute fan of the toys! I roger that loud and clear. I just don’t have them in the kit and if I’m being honest, I let my playmate cover those bases. Not opposed to always being prepared but luckily I haven’t been called upon in a very long time to have one on the ready. (I do long for the day when I hear “what do you mean you don’t have a riding crop and a butt plug with you”?!) Lol

    100% on the indigestion. Tren makes me a lady killer though, but the sides can be disruptive. Between 4-500 mgs, I produce just enough prolactin to turn me into a savage. Now there have been times I thought I would either spontaneously combust (due to how hot it makes me run or from the friction fire it takes to cross the finish line) but man I can go for days which sadly isn’t always the case without it on board (my two pump chump days are behind me but with Tren on board I give gold medal performances for sustainability)

    The problem is with the nausea, trensomnia and other funk it brings, I debate on whether it’s really all worth it). When I was younger for surethese days, debatable. The last run was the first time I’ve pulled up camp before the 10 week mark, I hit 6 and was over it. So over it. Also dealing with a new type of stomach, so there’s that.
    S&D,

    I am with you on everything in your response, especially the hi-lighted sections...!!!

    Did I read "butt plug" and "riding crop"...? Chicks bodies are made for that kind of activity...!!! I am a freak for anything that goes in her ass.
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