Low test 2 years post cycle + no morning wood

[bobspix]

Hello brothers, long time!
I hope you're all doing well in these tough times.

I realised that the PCT that I used post cycle 2 years ago had a different dosage per tablet than I assumed it to be. For example, all this time I thought my Nolvadex was 10 when it was 20 really. Clomid was fine I guess. I also used HCG back then.

Cut to two years today, I have gained 15 kilograms in weight, mostly fat due to lockdown gyms closed and bing eating (degenerate behaviour I know)

I have lost morning wood. So my main concern is:
1)Did not doing my NOLVA as per protocol responsible for this?
2)I suspect this Low T could also be from my rapid weight gain, I have started gym again and I am trying to get lean.
3)What can I do to fix this?

I will get my bloods done tomorrow and see where my numbers are.

please advice and feel free to ask any questions.

[Iranon]

Get your blood work and take into consideration any medications you are on, for example Finasteride.

[Test Monsterone]

I don't think PCT does much, to be honest. Have not done it myself, but I think that the body has to recover on it's own, one way or another. PCT often times just delays the recovery, I think. Now, HCG is a very useful compound that should be run during the cycle and a little after to keep the testicles active. I don't think taking nolva or not taking nolva would have much effect in the long run.

Weight gain and low-T go hand-in-hand and either one can cause the other. Belly fat, in men, is a primary source for conversion from testosterone into estrogen. So the more belly fat you have, the less available testosterone will be in the body. But, having low t can also cause an increase in belly fat... so it's case of what came first, the chicken or the egg? If you find out you have low-t, you can try to lower your bodyfat and and then test yourself again.

[bobspix]

I don't think PCT does much, to be honest. Have not done it myself, but I think that the body has to recover on it's own, one way or another. PCT often times just delays the recovery, I think. Now, HCG is a very useful compound that should be run during the cycle and a little after to keep the testicles active. I don't think taking nolva or not taking nolva would have much effect in the long run.

Weight gain and low-T go hand-in-hand and either one can cause the other. Belly fat, in men, is a primary source for conversion from testosterone into estrogen. So the more belly fat you have, the less available testosterone will be in the body. But, having low t can also cause an increase in belly fat... so it's case of what came first, the chicken or the egg? If you find out you have low-t, you can try to lower your bodyfat and and then test yourself again.

I think it has more to do with my weight gain and stress than cycle aftermath. My main concern is, this low T feels like the shutdown/suppression we have immediately post cycle after we come off and test starts tapering off, like the numbness in THAT region. Although that feeling is rare but it shouldn't be there.

Plus, My eating habits have gone from eating healthy to eating Junk 3x a day in all meals. So is there anything I should try apart from fat loss to fix this?

[< <Samson> >]

All reasons y I stay on

Get your BW & go from there.

At least you’ll have an idea of what’s going on


Coming off the juice, you need to have a tight ass diet to keep yourself intact.

[bobspix]

Got my bloods
Total T is 344.46 ng/dl
Free T is 6.38 pg/dl (Range is 3.84-34.2)

That's very low innit? Is there anything I can do to fix this?

[Mooseman33]

problem is not low enough for insurance to cover trt so will be self pay

[< <Samson> >]

Got my bloods
Total T is 344.46 ng/dl
Free T is 6.38 pg/dl (Range is 3.84-34.2)

These are pretty much my identical numbers when I was 27-28

[MACKATTACK]

Hello brothers, long time!
I hope you're all doing well in these tough times.

I realised that the PCT that I used post cycle 2 years ago had a different dosage per tablet than I assumed it to be. For example, all this time I thought my Nolvadex was 10 when it was 20 really. Clomid was fine I guess. I also used HCG back then.

Cut to two years today, I have gained 15 kilograms in weight, mostly fat due to lockdown gyms closed and bing eating (degenerate behaviour I know)

I have lost morning wood. So my main concern is:
1)Did not doing my NOLVA as per protocol responsible for this?
2)I suspect this Low T could also be from my rapid weight gain, I have started gym again and I am trying to get lean.
3)What can I do to fix this?

I will get my bloods done tomorrow and see where my numbers are.

please advice and feel free to ask any questions.

Nolvadex or Low T did not cause this, bloods or not........The weight gain is from you not working out and binge eating like mentioned. If you don't put it into your mouth then you wouldn't gain massive amounts of weight. Honestly sounds like you're depressed and might be comfort eating. Corona hasn't been easy on any of us. If you do have Low T that can easily be rectified and help with possible emotional/mental feelings. I say start going to the gym on a consistent basis, even if its a lesser workout plan than you have previously.

Try to make healthier meal choices.

I would start doing some fasted cardio and or HIIT, that can help to jump start your metabolism.

[Fit4Florida]

problem is not low enough for insurance to cover trt so will be self pay

How low does he have to be for Ins to pick up the TRT?

[< <Samson> >]

Nolvadex or Low T did not cause this, bloods or not........The weight gain is from you not working out and binge eating like mentioned. If you don't put it into your mouth then you wouldn't gain massive amounts of weight. Honestly sounds like you're depressed and might be comfort eating. Corona hasn't been easy on any of us. If you do have Low T that can easily be rectified and help with possible emotional/mental feelings. I say start going to the gym on a consistent basis, even if its a lesser workout plan than you have previously.

Try to make healthier meal choices.

I would start doing some fasted cardio and or HIIT, that can help to jump start your metabolism.

With those test #’s? I don’t think so


Before I started running any form of roids - I worked out regularly, pushed myself hard & got nowhere. I did get my diet straight & lost all of weight. I was a solid 15-17%bf at about 160-170Lbs

If was really a beating to go to the gym & not see results at all + my dick barely worked.

Low test #’s put a drag on your life - I would have never known if I didn’t start cycling. I thought(and according to my MD) it’s just the way it is. < fuck that

[bobspix]

Nolvadex or Low T did not cause this, bloods or not........The weight gain is from you not working out and binge eating like mentioned. If you don't put it into your mouth then you wouldn't gain massive amounts of weight. Honestly sounds like you're depressed and might be comfort eating. Corona hasn't been easy on any of us. If you do have Low T that can easily be rectified and help with possible emotional/mental feelings. I say start going to the gym on a consistent basis, even if its a lesser workout plan than you have previously.

Try to make healthier meal choices.

I would start doing some fasted cardio and or HIIT, that can help to jump start your metabolism.

Well to put into context, My post cycle total T was 101 ng/dl something.
When I was natty and didn't know any better, there was this "trainer" that put me through a bullshit workout program which did nothing but fuck me up. At that time when I tested myself, I was 380 ng/dl approx. I tested because I wanted to cycle but people in the forums told me I was too young so I postponed it.

After I gained knowledge and started implementing it, I saw tremendous changes. Diet was OTP, Workout itself was optimal and I made quite an aesthetic physique. Got tested to start cycle and my Total T was 690 ng/dl. Couldn't believe so I tested in a few weeks again through a different lab and the result was still same. Postponed cycling again because it was working.

TL;DR :
Current : Total T is 344.46 ng/dl
Total T after first cycle : 100 ng/dl approx
Total T natty but with zero diet and shit workout : 344 ng/dl approx
Total T natty but peak diet and workout : 690 ng/dl

So, should I do a Clomid treatment at like 25-50 Mg doses for a few months to try and "fix" this or just leave it as it is, get my shit together and then get tested again to see if the numbers increase? :Will they)

[bobspix]

These are pretty much my identical numbers when I was 27-28

I see. All natty?
Also one last thing, Why is the Free T so low? What role does it play and what does this low number imply in terms of it's impact and stuff, especially on libido and fertility. Apologies if it's a stupid question.

[Iranon]

How low does he have to be for Ins to pick up the TRT?

Depends on many factors: age, what Nation you live in, how determined to force the criminal medical community to do their jobs...ect.

Typically If you are under 299 total test you can most likely force your insurance to pay but often this will take time and work. If you have cash just go to a TRT clinic, you will get a higher dose and other options to add to your HRT.

[< <Samson> >]

I see. All natty?

Never touched a thing, total test was 360 or so & free test was mid 3 something

Couldn’t do shit - no gains(strength or size), could barely get it up. MD gave me a Rx for Viagra < back then it was 20 bucks a pill, so I got the shit from China for a buck a pill