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02-23-2022, 08:05 PM #1
Antidepressants?
Kinda off topic but figured some of you guys might have some advice. Lost a loved one just after Christmas and have just been down right depressed, don't feel like doing anything, still getting to the gym but I have no focus and end up leaving.
It just seems like it keeps getting worse and I've been considering talking to my Dr. About something for it.
Anyone use anything, did it help, would you recommend it?also how was it getting it I really don't want to go through a whole freaking evaluation or anything.
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02-23-2022, 09:14 PM #2
Yeah man, take some SSRIs, they work. I took some for panic attacks, but they're prescribed for anxiety and depression. Whatever depression I had also went away and I felt great for a year until the effects wore off and I decided to come off of them. I took citalopram and zoloft, but I feel like citalopram worked better for me. It takes about a month for them to kick in but you might also feel a short period of a couple of days where you feel amazing right when you start taking them. Then it goes down again, and starts coming back up slowly.
You go to a psychiatrist, tell them you've been depressed for a while/have anxiety, say you've heard of friends or people have success with some low-dose SSRIs, and go from there. It only took 1 visit to get them prescribed each time. They're not addictive like how benzodiazepines are, so doctors don't typically have any issue prescribing them.
I definitely recommend SSRIs for anyone dealing with depression. I'm not sure on the long-term effects of them, as I was on them for less than a year each time. It was relatively easy to come off. The only side effect I had was minor weight gain and I could last forever with my girl (which is bad for me since I already last forever). Good luck man, I hope you start feeling better - life is tough.
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02-23-2022, 10:44 PM #3
Agreed
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U off the roids?
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02-24-2022, 09:53 AM #5
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Thought you were lookin to drop the roids all together
This is all personal preference & opinion, not medical advice of any form > Fuck antidepressants & all the shit alike. I even stopped smoking weed, I am quite dependent on xAnax for sleep tho & run a decent amount of gear & looking to add more. I feel great 95% of the time, all blood work just came back spot on, just did my blood donation & my cholesterol is better than my wife's - it's summer time - it's time to get juiced & into more troubleI didn't come back from hell to feel like dulled down pile of ass
I am being much more safe with things in life, I wanna see my son grow up. It's not pedal to the metal like it was a few years ago - I dropped all drug use(aside from the roids & my benzos) - but, considering what I went through I feel like I am doing just fine
Figure it out bro - u seemed to have a much different tune in a recent thread you made
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02-24-2022, 10:37 AM #7
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Well, do more roids & get more swoled up - always helped me
I don’t know how old u r, or if u have kids < those kinda go into this never ending cycle equation
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02-24-2022, 04:45 PM #9
I couldn’t have survived the last 30 years of my life without Prozac. Have bumped the dosage three times (started very low initially). Definitely made me a more functional human being. You are going to need a doctor though and their ain’t any shame in that or the fact that you need some help.
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02-24-2022, 06:23 PM #11
It was a subtle difference. But after a few months on it I just felt a not as bummed out & for me it also reduced anxiety as well. I was a bit more comfortable with interacting socially (which I still dislike unless it’s very close friends and in small numbers). That said, I still refuse to do anything socially without alcohol. I’ll likely die with a drink in my hand or near by.
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I've used Clonazepam, but this shit never worked for me. Depression is more connected with spiritual aspects of your life than other aspects of life. Many take tons of anti-depressants for years but the depression always resurfaces. The way to get rid of your depression is to try to improve your spiritual aspect by going to a church etc... to try to get rid of bad thoughts and give your own right if you are happy... You can't let bad thoughts dominate you brother! I lost my grandmother in August 2019 it was very difficult for me, but I try to remember only the good times I had with her!
Move on with your life brother, for you to be breathing this is a great gift! You are alive brother, it's a blessing, always remember the moments you had with people who are gone, but never forget that there is a Creator of the universe called GOD Only who cares about you! Forward, always forward! You are alive. Always ignore evil thoughts, if they come to afflict you, remember how many people are seriously ill, without health or even in a terminal state that would give anything to be with the health you have!
Have gratitude to God and the universe, enjoy the moments with those people who are by your side, wife, children, friends etc. I wish you all the best brother, and know that your mind controls your emotions.
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Davi
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02-25-2022, 07:18 AM #13
I agree with you, Davi. For most people, depression is a signal to a bigger problem that needs to be fixed. For a few, it is a lifelong disease that grips them regardless of what remedies they try. Medicine should be used only when it is really needed and when the depression is out of control. Sometimes people sink so low they can’t figure out how to come back to the surface; this is when medicine can help. I think that things like faith, training oneself to think positive thoughts, controlling emotions, and lifestyle choices have a longer lasting impact on mental health than drugs or medicine. Some people are born with a strong mind that is impervious to negativity, and others must work hard to protect their sanity. It’s different for everyone, but I think that medicine can be an aid, along with therapy and the things Davi mentioned.
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02-25-2022, 03:20 PM #14
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Spot on analysis from Davi, TM and numerous others.
I fully concur w/TM and his take on pharmaceutical products as an adjunct to lifestyle changes (etc...).
I do remember what GH said in one thread (I know, I know... I sound like the cheerleader for GH... WTF), that Dbol can be (and was) used in treatment of depression and other psych illnesses. I didn't research this statement, so I cannot vouch for its veracity. It would make some sense if one considers the limited euphoria (AAS is cocaine, UNFORTUNATELY) which can be experienced with AAS usage.
I have been quite lucky (I guess...) in being 56 yo and never experiencing depression. Currently going through my 4th divorce (I was never the kind of team mate that guys wanted to introduce to their sisters; I always wondered why... Either I am bulletproof (disproven in Ramadi, Iraq) or a sociopath / psychopath (I took the test for psychopathology and unfortunately scored 100%... I was positive for every question... WTF... "Reenlist that guy, ASAP")...
I had my best childhood friend from junior / senior HS commit suicide, about 10 yrs ago, leaving behind two teenage sons... He was a somewhat successful stock broker from Chicago, who was apparently suffering from depression for years (according to his sister). The guy drove south of the city of Chicago, to a closed campground, just around the Easter holiday, went into the bathroom at the campground, and shot himself in the chest... A WTF moment for me for sure... My brother; this guy is the motherfucking "Rock of Gibraltar", my childhood idol and a state level champion bodybuilder; he was depressed and taking Prozac...
So, it can affect anyone and everyone...
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02-26-2022, 04:30 PM #15
So about 13 yrs ago I went straight edge. No rec drugs no alcohol. I was reluctant to take any mind/mood altering substances. It was a long road to finding myself. After working on myself and the way I react with life/others/god I found that I always struggled to maintain an emotional homeostasis that others seemed to have effortlessly. Spoke to those close to me and my doctor. I explained the symptoms and he prescribed me Buproprion and venlafaxine.
I am now able to face the day on an equal playing field. Chemical imbalances in the brain can be very challenging to live with and being treated with low dose meds has really changed my life. Combined with a constant mindset of helping others life has been unreal.
On the other hand you have situational depression/anxiety. Usually brought on by temporary situations that get better with time. That is rarely treated effectively with medication. With a caveat: situational depression can lead to major depression that may require medication as part of a long term plan (PTSD, Severe Trauma etc) In my case I do not talk to a shrink, no counseling just the low dose meds daily.
I’ve lost many close ones in life, many. It’s tough. The closer they are the tougher it is. I found that praying for them, working on my own spirituality, and focusing on putting one foot in front of the other on a daily basis leads to better days slowly. Hang in there bro and if you don’t feel yourself getting better in a couple months maybe it’s time to talk to a therapist. I suspect that within a month or two you will realize that you are healing already.
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03-10-2022, 03:24 PM #16
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i had severe depression back in 2004 started taking paxil 20mg up to 40mg with time then back to 20mg it made my life easy the problem with ssri’s you have to know is weight gain. no matter how much cardio and diet you can’t lose the weight. i was always trying to taper off it wasn’t easy then i would go back to treatment. now after 18years i weaned off and it was easy i think it’s age or time or because my life is all put together.
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03-22-2022, 06:17 AM #17
Well i have expirience with anti-depressant called Venlafaxin. It helps against depression and anxiety. How I would describe the effect is like a amfetamin high only without the euphoria. Gives you more energy, confidence, you dont worry so much etc you are like on a mini rush just without the euphoric feeling of real drugs. For the first weeks you feel the little "rush" but after that you dont feel the effects anymore, you just dont have anxiety, you have more energy etc. Atleast thats how it worked for me, helped loads for me. I was taking 150mg a day.
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03-24-2022, 01:53 AM #18
I agree with the above regarding NOT using anything at all to escape the pain you are feeling now, but I do fully agree that some need it to function properly temporarily or permanently.
First of:
That you are here at all and write to us and that you even go to the gym shows that you have immense power within you already! Don't throw away small steps as something trivial,
remember that many give up completely and don't even eat or becomes way worse mentally (talking serious things).
Secondly:
No one who passes would want to be remembered with feelings of hurt, sadness, pity or anything negatively attached. It's perfectly fine to grieve and the pain is horrible to say
the least, but it's a part of life and we need to remember the love we shared during the time we had with him or her.
Thirdly:
Escape and restart is not the same thing IMO. Using alcohol or supplements to remove certain feelings is escaping and they have a tendency of resurface, OR they might
make people seek remedies for everything painful, in higher doses or combinations, or too long. Restart can be like I did for example going to another country and
opening up a business, removing me from the people and memories that just ate me from the inside.
Allow yourself to feel the pain.
And don't be ashamed to talk with people, even random people have more heart than many of us believe and would gladly give their input.
It helps just having someone, anyone listening.
Right kind of music and walks help as well, or just go away for a week somewhere.
All in all, I am truly sorry to hear what you are going through, but as I mentioned before, you are already showing strength and the one
who passed would want you to be happy.
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03-24-2022, 10:58 AM #19
You're grieving, it's a normal feeling you go through, when you lose somebody that you love. I don't see any real need to drug yourself with those psych meds. They're there to correct chronic problems.
What I'd suggest to you is to arrange a few sessions with a therapist that can guide you through the process. Grieving is a process and it takes time to heal. Just remind yourself that your loved one didn't want you to suffer after they left this world. They want you to go on with your life.
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03-26-2022, 08:00 AM #20
I did 8 months of escitalopram at 20mg/day, which is nearly equivalent to 40mg/day of citalopram as it's a racemic compound -- the "es" as the beginning is "S-" as in "S-citalopram" as opposed to "R-citalopram" (the difference is right-handed Vs left-handed molecules).
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