Doing a cycle before having hair transplant??

[TheGypsyKing]

So I've wanted to do a cycle so I don't look like Adam Levine anymore. And my hair is def receding. I'd like a transplant, and as well maybe even a little stomach lipo to have no lower belly fat. In other words, at some point I'll be unable to work out for a few weeks. I also don't want to start androgenics after a hair transplant and see it all go to crap. I figure might as well shed the follicles on cycle, then have them transplanted and hopefully they stay after I cycle again.

What are your thoughts on that idea? I guess I'd be wasting my gains from the cycle when I go through surgery, but would it be benificial to shed the hair first? Can you keep transplanted hair when doing test cycles? is 3 weeks of not lifting just a guarantee to lose 100% of the gains?

[956Vette]

are you able to provide more details on the cycle you'd consider in order to turbocharge your male pattern baldness? sounds like you'll be a cheap date and degrade rapidly, would not invest much had you need to learn by mistake.

[Cuz]

I have no idea what to respond to this with other than
A: you don’t need a cycle to be bigger than Adam Levign
B: you need a bulking diet and training program

Sounds like you fall into the vast majority of people wanting lifelong results from a few weeks training. Not gonna happen sorry if its sounds harsh.

Also, we have no way of knowing if your hair will fall out after the transplant if you cycle. All depends on genetics.

[Mooseman33]

so at 26 u are getting lipo and hair transplant and are worried about gains from a cycle?

buddy, learn nutrition and training.

[Test Monsterone]

The reason they use hair follicles from the back of the head when doing a transplant is that they are not androgen sensitive and prone to balding the way the hair on top of the head is. Otherwise the hair would fall out again after the transplant. But - the hair you still have is going to continue falling out if you take androgens. A cycle is not really a problem imo, it’s having elevated test over a long period of time that is the most problematic.

[956Vette]

The reason they use hair follicles from the back of the head when doing a transplant is that they are not androgen sensitive and prone to balding the way the hair on top of the head is. Otherwise the hair would fall out again after the transplant. But - the hair you still have is going to continue falling out if you take androgens. A cycle is not really a problem imo, it’s having elevated test over a long period of time that is the most problematic.

good info - in my experience, transplanted hair has a limited shelf life (~20yrs), requires a fair amount of discipline & finasteride to maintain

[< <Samson> >]

Dang guys - makin me feel great about my baldness < seriously

Apparently I look a darn near twin of Bill Goldberg - which A ok with me

[Honkey_Kong]

So I've wanted to do a cycle so I don't look like Adam Levine anymore. And my hair is def receding. I'd like a transplant, and as well maybe even a little stomach lipo to have no lower belly fat. In other words, at some point I'll be unable to work out for a few weeks. I also don't want to start androgenics after a hair transplant and see it all go to crap. I figure might as well shed the follicles on cycle, then have them transplanted and hopefully they stay after I cycle again.

What are your thoughts on that idea? I guess I'd be wasting my gains from the cycle when I go through surgery, but would it be benificial to shed the hair first? Can you keep transplanted hair when doing test cycles? is 3 weeks of not lifting just a guarantee to lose 100% of the gains?

Sounds like you need to learn how to diet and train. Shooting some juice isn't a substitute.

[wango]

So I've wanted to do a cycle so I don't look like Adam Levine anymore. And my hair is def receding. I'd like a transplant, and as well maybe even a little stomach lipo to have no lower belly fat. In other words, at some point I'll be unable to work out for a few weeks. I also don't want to start androgenics after a hair transplant and see it all go to crap. I figure might as well shed the follicles on cycle, then have them transplanted and hopefully they stay after I cycle again.

What are your thoughts on that idea? I guess I'd be wasting my gains from the cycle when I go through surgery, but would it be benificial to shed the hair first? Can you keep transplanted hair when doing test cycles? is 3 weeks of not lifting just a guarantee to lose 100% of the gains?

Having had transplants 20 years ago to thicken the hairline and fill in the crown, the transplanted hair responds like normal hair. It still very gradually thinned from when I was 44, but not totally. That said, if normally your hair thins or falls out with different compounds, it’s going to fall out or thin every time you cycle; it depends upon you.

For me doing TRT at 150 mg./week did nothing to accelerate the process, but bump that up to a 50O testosterone cycle/week, I noticed more coming out in my brush.

My one cycle with mast & tren did the most hair loss damage, so I’m not touching mast again.

Bought an expensive laser helmet for hair regrowth and in 7 months between it and finisteride, it completely reversed it (not bad for being 64) and am very happy I spent the bucks.

If I’m going to drop 10-15K on another round of transplants, I sure as shit won’t mess with any other cycles.

Regarding the lipo: bust your ass with diet, training and added cardio and be patient. I live in Los Angeles & have seen some of the work these surgeons do, but to get it done right, you’re looking at 25K. If I came upon 10-15 million out of the blue I’d do it, because the progress they’ve made with dudes midsections and chests is outrageous.

Last point, thinking TRT might be the only thing that would let you keep your hair, but any hair transplant surgeon ain’t going to endorse it because it could possibly mess up your results.

Good luck.

[TheGypsyKing]

The reason they use hair follicles from the back of the head when doing a transplant is that they are not androgen sensitive and prone to balding the way the hair on top of the head is. Otherwise the hair would fall out again after the transplant. But - the hair you still have is going to continue falling out if you take androgens. A cycle is not really a problem imo, it’s having elevated test over a long period of time that is the most problematic.

No WAYYY! A guy on a fitness forum who doesn't just say "you need to learn about proper nutrition and rest bro."

Thanks for the intel. Gotcha. I just don't want to get a hair transplant, then cycle, then have a huge shedding around the new hair. I guess it seems logical to juice before it, a cycle, maybe two, shed some follicles, then have a hair transplant that covers prior and new hair loss, then lose my gains in the weeks of recovery, then juice again.

[TheGypsyKing]

I have no idea what to respond to this with other than
A: you don’t need a cycle to be bigger than Adam Levign
B: you need a bulking diet and training program

Sounds like you fall into the vast majority of people wanting lifelong results from a few weeks training. Not gonna happen sorry if its sounds harsh.

Also, we have no way of knowing if your hair will fall out after the transplant if you cycle. All depends on genetics.

You know not everyone can be built like Jevon Kearse using diet and exercise, right?

[TheGypsyKing]

good info - in my experience, transplanted hair has a limited shelf life (~20yrs), requires a fair amount of discipline & finasteride to maintain

Fin def freaks me out a bit. Just the potential sexual side effects. But well test is probably far worse for you.

[TheGypsyKing]

Having had transplants 20 years ago to thicken the hairline and fill in the crown, the transplanted hair responds like normal hair. It still very gradually thinned from when I was 44, but not totally. That said, if normally your hair thins or falls out with different compounds, it’s going to fall out or thin every time you cycle; it depends upon you.

For me doing TRT at 150 mg./week did nothing to accelerate the process, but bump that up to a 50O testosterone cycle/week, I noticed more coming out in my brush.

My one cycle with mast & tren did the most hair loss damage, so I’m not touching mast again.

Bought an expensive laser helmet for hair regrowth and in 7 months between it and finisteride, it completely reversed it (not bad for being 64) and am very happy I spent the bucks.

If I’m going to drop 10-15K on another round of transplants, I sure as shit won’t mess with any other cycles.

Regarding the lipo: bust your ass with diet, training and added cardio and be patient. I live in Los Angeles & have seen some of the work these surgeons do, but to get it done right, you’re looking at 25K. If I came upon 10-15 million out of the blue I’d do it, because the progress they’ve made with dudes midsections and chests is outrageous.

Last point, thinking TRT might be the only thing that would let you keep your hair, but any hair transplant surgeon ain’t going to endorse it because it could possibly mess up your results.

Good luck.

Thanks. When I bring up lipo, I'm talking about maybe half a pound of fat at the bottom of my stomach. Most people would call me shredded. I'm just not like russell westbrook abs type lean. But I would probably have it done while vacationing in Thailand. Costs a few thousand. I guess I'd just like to figure out the best way to get jacked and have hair and keep it too.

[956Vette]

I just don't want to get a hair transplant, then cycle, then have a huge shedding around the new hair. I guess it seems logical to juice before it, a cycle, maybe two, shed some follicles, then have a hair transplant that covers prior and new hair loss, then lose my gains in the weeks of recovery, then juice again.

Credible doctors who specialize in hair transplant surgery are artists, it's their job to strategically place and anticipate your pattern/path. Might be valuable to schedule a few consults and let the information digest for awhile.

Fin def freaks me out a bit. Just the potential sexual side effects. But well test is probably far worse for you.

Both finasteride and long term hormone therapy are gnarly big commitments, no doubt. GL!

[teedoff]

Ok ill just say it. I would not complain if i looked like adam levine. He's a decent looking guy and women throw themselves at him. Lol. I'll take that any day.

[Test Monsterone]

Ok ill just say it. I would not complain if i looked like adam levine. He's a decent looking guy and women throw themselves at him. Lol. I'll take that any day.

That’s because he’s famous, and yeah, decent looking. Attractive women fuck Elon Musk, did you ever see him with his shirt off? There’s a certain kind of women that go for fame, and not the kind that you want to be around.

[Cuz]

You know not everyone can be built like Jevon Kearse using diet and exercise, right?

What are your stats? How long have you been training?

You can take all the chemicals in the world, end up fucking yourself up and gain zero results IF you do not what the fuck you are doing. I see it all the time in my hometown.

Now am I saying you dont know? No, we ask that shit to try and help you.

[Honkey_Kong]

No WAYYY! A guy on a fitness forum who doesn't just say "you need to learn about proper nutrition and rest bro."

Thanks for the intel. Gotcha. I just don't want to get a hair transplant, then cycle, then have a huge shedding around the new hair. I guess it seems logical to juice before it, a cycle, maybe two, shed some follicles, then have a hair transplant that covers prior and new hair loss, then lose my gains in the weeks of recovery, then juice again.

You said you don't want to look like Adam Levine anymore. Meaning that you're scrawny. You also in the same post said you wanted to get lipo on your lower abdomen. Meaning that you're skinny fat. Never mind the balding problem, by your own admission, you don't train right and you don't eat right. Fact is, you don't need steroids to put more muscle on than him. If you think you need to, then you don't know what you're doing.

And really, nobody gives a flying fvuk what some troll like you does or doesn't do. It's really somebody else, who legitimately needs help and stumbles on this thread that needs truthful advice. If they're in a spot like you trollfully described the last thing they need to do is run gear.

[< <Samson> >]

I dunno if any guy actually knows this

But, it ain’t exactly our looks that get pussy - I see & know plenty of ugly fuckers with hot ass women & the other way around

[TheGypsyKing]

I dunno if any guy actually knows this

But, it ain’t exactly our looks that get pussy - I see & know plenty of ugly fuckers with hot ass women & the other way around

Occassionally it does. But yes it's not the number one factor, unless you are brad pitt handsome.

[TheGypsyKing]

I dunno if any guy actually knows this

But, it ain’t exactly our looks that get pussy - I see & know plenty of ugly fuckers with hot ass women & the other way around

Also worth noting that giant muscles usually doesn't land the top quality girls either, generally some trashy-hot ones, which hey if that's your thing go for it, but we're doing all this more for our own perception and confidence than for anything else. But why not try to be attractive AND rich AND charming AND confident. Better looks don't hurt.

[Honkey_Kong]

Also worth noting that giant muscles usually doesn't land the top quality girls either, generally some trashy-hot ones, which hey if that's your thing go for it, but we're doing all this more for our own perception and confidence than for anything else. But why not try to be attractive AND rich AND charming AND confident. Better looks don't hurt.

There are many reasons why people get in to lifting. But I'll give you some good advice, instead of trying to be "attractive AND rich AND charming AND confident," why not just be yourself? It's easier to pull it off than some phony gimmick. And if you can't pull a decent woman when you're broke and homely, then you're not going to get a good one if you're rich and attractive. You'll only get gold diggers then.

I don't go to the gym to pick up chicks or make myself more desirable. I go for the challenge of lifting. I want to lift 5lbs heavier every time or do one rep more than the last time (although it doesn't always happen and sometimes I have some bad days where I go backwards).

My old lady doesn't give a fvuk if I'm jacked or if I'm scrawny. If anything, she doesn't want me going to the gym or taking gear (aside from TRT). And she's still going to be with me rich or poor no matter what my health or hers is.

[< <Samson> >]

It’s a tough crowd - after about 1/2 of the women I talk to, they’re like - u look intimidating af & it’s not exactly attractive. The girls that lift - well, you’re never big enough as long as your dick works

I definitely get more attention being the biggest guy in the room - but, it’s not girls throwing themselves at me. But, it’s definitely a confidence booster in a different way.

Wife is the same way, she’s like - I got with you when you’re “normal” - although she does prefer me on juice. Not just cause how I look, but I’m 10x hornier than I was when we met.

Yet, I can’t knock her up unless I come off. . . Oh life, can’t have everything

[Test Monsterone]

Women are interesting. You see different things depending on age groups. When they're young, they go for the cool/attractive guys. Then in their mid 20s-40s they go for someone who is stable financially, not necessarily the most attractive. Then you see with celebrity women who are in their 40s/50s/60s - some go for the younger attractive guys... Different women have different values, but stability is going to win over looks for most women.

From personal experience, when I was even 225-230 I had a few girls tell me when they first met me they thought I was too big. But, once they got to know me, that muscle became attractive for them and they liked it. So, I think having nice muscles is just one part of their attraction toward us, but not the primary. There needs to be personality, intelligence, stability for most serious women. Not talking about trashy chicks/drug addicts/etc.

[Test Monsterone]

duplicate.

[Iranon]

This won't end well.


Sounds like questions you should be asking your doctor/hair loss specialist. Go watch More Plates More Dates on youtube, he has excellent content on this subject.


https://www.youtube.com/c/MorePlatesMoreDates/videos

[< <Samson> >]

Women are interesting. You see different things depending on age groups. When they're young, they go for the cool/attractive guys. Then in their mid 20s-40s they go for someone who is stable financially, not necessarily the most attractive. Then you see with celebrity women who are in their 40s/50s/60s - some go for the younger attractive guys... Different women have different values, but stability is going to win over looks for most women.

From personal experience, when I was even 225-230 I had a few girls tell me when they first met me they thought I was too big. But, once they got to know me, that muscle became attractive for them and they liked it. So, I think having nice muscles is just one part of their attraction toward us, but not the primary. There needs to be personality, intelligence, stability for most serious women. Not talking about trashy chicks/drug addicts/etc.

Geez, well said

After years of doing this, I finally figured out the meaning of - “I’m doing this for me”

Personally, I like how it changed me over the years + seemed to help a lot with my hemorrhage recovery. My neurosurgical team said it - thanks to my athletic ability I will recover much faster & better than someone who’s “normal” - so far, so good

So keep going - no deficits after my pre summer ER visit, no stroke like symptoms - no nothin

I spoke to a firefighter customer earlier this week - told him what happened. He said from what he’s seen, I am a walking miracle. Stroke/hemorrhage patients don’t come back like did - well, at least very rarely. And, he sees it often - like, shit - this guy will never be the same

So fuck hair, don’t care

[wango]

Geez, well said

After years of doing this, I finally figured out the meaning of - “I’m doing this for me”

Personally, I like how it changed me over the years + seemed to help a lot with my hemorrhage recovery. My neurosurgical team said it - thanks to my athletic ability I will recover much faster & better than someone who’s “normal” - so far, so good

So keep going - no deficits after my pre summer ER visit, no stroke like symptoms - no nothin

I spoke to a firefighter customer earlier this week - told him what happened. He said from what he’s seen, I am a walking miracle. Stroke/hemorrhage patients don’t come back like did - well, at least very rarely. And, he sees it often - like, shit - this guy will never be the same

So fuck hair, don’t care

Samson, have been in the profession a long time. You bet your ass you are a walking miracle! It takes every ounce of effort I have to not say maybe to slow down a bit in thanks of your good fortune, but I won’t say that