Dbol last four weeks ... HCG

**Crest** · 07-21-2023, 09:45 AM

Guys, coming to last week of twelve week test c cycle.

Have lots of dbol here. Considering running up till pct (21 days last injection) at low dose, maybe 15mg per day.

In your opinions, any real negatives in doing that?

If I do, good to run HCG alongside for last 3 - 4 weeks before then starting nolva/clomid?

Thanks!

**Cylon357** · 07-22-2023, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Crest

Guys, coming to last week of twelve week test c cycle.

Have lots of dbol here. Considering running up till pct (21 days last injection) at low dose, maybe 15mg per day.

In your opinions, any real negatives in doing that?

If I do, good to run HCG alongside for last 3 - 4 weeks before then starting nolva/clomid?

Thanks!

Running the dbol up to the start of pct is a bad idea, imo. Dbol is suppressive. Yes, it is in and out fast, but no benefit to it and probably more harm than good. I would just PCT properly.

Run hcg regardless.

**Mooseman33** · 07-24-2023, 03:04 PM

time it right next time and finish the last 4 weeks with droll and u will love it.

always suggest finishing with it rather than starting with it.

**Honkey_Kong** · 07-24-2023, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Crest

Guys, coming to last week of twelve week test c cycle.

Have lots of dbol here. Considering running up till pct (21 days last injection) at low dose, maybe 15mg per day.

In your opinions, any real negatives in doing that?

If I do, good to run HCG alongside for last 3 - 4 weeks before then starting nolva/clomid?

Thanks!

Well how about you tell us why you're considering running it until your PCT start? And why at 15mg per day? I mean we can all tell you our opinions of why it would be a good/bad idea. But without knowing why you are considering it, it makes it impossible for us to support/shoot your idea down as it pertains to you.

**Cuz** · 07-25-2023, 06:58 AM

15 is not a low dose if its good quality I ran 20mg in may and june and the pumps were very painful…

Running dbol , as estrogenic as this shit is imo is a bad idea. Dbol up until pct, 21 days after your test injection would be a super bad call in that after 5 days your test is gonna drop off and wouldnt be shit in 10 days. So your using dbol for at minimum a week with no test I personally wouldnt. The only oral id run would be var

It may work for you, if you were on trt id say go for it but pct’ing , I'm not gonna advise it just my 2 cents. Just plan on your dick being limp bc 3 weeks of no test with dbol and then clomid/nolva sounds like a nightmare to me. Good luck

**Crest** · 07-29-2023, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Well how about you tell us why you're considering running it until your PCT start? And why at 15mg per day? I mean we can all tell you our opinions of why it would be a good/bad idea. But without knowing why you are considering it, it makes it impossible for us to support/shoot your idea down as it pertains to you.

Mostly just to stay anabolic up until pct. I decided not to anyway.

15mg a day. Why not?

**Crest** · 07-29-2023, 11:37 PM

I was more interested to know about running the HCG with the dbol as I read HCG is also quite estrogenic.

**Honkey_Kong** · 07-31-2023, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by Crest

Mostly just to stay anabolic up until pct. I decided not to anyway.

15mg a day. Why not?

Well let me put it like this. The testosterone cypionate has a half life of about 8 days right? It generally takes about 5 times the half life for your body to fully clear that test out (about 40 days give or take and even longer for all the metabolites). That means there probably will be a significant amount of testosterone in your body still during those 21 days. So to say you're not going to be "anabolic" during that time isn't true.

**Crest** · 07-31-2023, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Well let me put it like this. The testosterone cypionate has a half life of about 8 days right? It generally takes about 5 times the half life for your body to fully clear that test out (about 40 days give or take and even longer for all the metabolites). That means there probably will be a significant amount of testosterone in your body still during those 21 days. So to say you're not going to be "anabolic" during that time isn't true.

Sure, understand. Was also looking at steroidcalculator to see actually how much test would be in a persons system during the 21 days period, however the calculator didn't present any info after a 3 or 4 day period.

I think maybe dwindling test levels. I'd be interested to know at what point a person is dropping below an average natural test level?

15mg dosage would probably be quite good. I ran a kick-start at 15mg per day at tue front end. TBH, did not notice much difference between 15mg and when I've ran 30 and 40mg's... I'm thinking low and slow with dbol next time around. Maybe 8 weeks prop and dbol.

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