Is it possible to regain natural T production after a cycle at 40?

**PeteFasio** · 08-13-2023, 03:58 PM

40 years old, been lifting since high school, natural T level is 780 (880 after taking boron, D and shilajit). I know T suppresses natural T production so just wondering if I can get at least close to my natural levels after a light cycle of lets say 200-250(edit: I meant 400 mg) per week for 8-10 weeks with proper PCT, or getting on TRT will be inevitable even with just one cycle. Also does taking HCG during the cycle help with restating the production post cycle? Any help would be appreciated.

5'9, 175 LB, 17% bf.

**almostgone** · 08-13-2023, 05:14 PM

It's possible, but there are never any guarantees.

If you have good free T levels, I would not risk it for just 200mg/week.

I would incorporate HCG into your cycle, if you run it

**almostgone** · 08-13-2023, 05:23 PM

Didn't you run a cycle in 2011?

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...est-cycle.html

Originally Posted by PeteFasio

I guess I'll take the test route. Gonna order Tect C online. Question about the measurements, does 200mg/ml 10ml/vial EP mean 10 injections of 200mg each? I'm asking because I cant believe the price, it costs about 5lb of protein powder. That's 5 weeks of test at 400mg a week, correct? They also have Human grade. Anyone here prefer that over UGL?

**PeteFasio** · 08-13-2023, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by almostgone

Didn't you run a cycle in 2011?

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...est-cycle.html

Haha forgot about that thread. No I pussed out unfortunately. But regret not doing it sooner. Also after reading that thread I remembered it was 400 mg per week I was planning on running as a light cycle, not 200.
My free T was 17.52 last year when my total was 780. Now my total is 880 but didn't check free. I badly want to break this fucking plateau and get bigger but don't want to get on TRT if I don't have to at this age since my levels are pretty damn good naturally. It seems like peptides might be the only way to do this without shutting down.

**Cuz** · 08-13-2023, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by PeteFasio

Haha forgot about that thread. No I pussed out unfortunately. But regret not doing it sooner. Also after reading that thread I remembered it was 400 mg per week I was planning on running as a light cycle, not 200.
My free T was 17.52 last year when my total was 780. Now my total is 880 but didn't check free. I badly want to break this fucking plateau and get bigger but don't want to get on TRT if I don't have to at this age since my levels are pretty damn good naturally. It seems like peptides might be the only way to do this without shutting down.

Try some MK677 it will help and you dont have to cycle off of it. With those test levels I would leave them alone as AG suggested. Hormones may not always be the answer but yeah if you dont want trt id definitely leave them alone try some mk, try eating more, maybe train a little harder if you’re able.

**Cylon357** · 08-13-2023, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cuz

Try some MK677 it will help and you dont have to cycle off of it. With those test levels I would leave them alone as AG suggested. Hormones may not always be the answer but yeah if you dont want trt id definitely leave them alone try some mk, try eating more, maybe train a little harder if you’re able.

I came here to suggest MK as well. You might look at hgh, and / or something like ModGrf 1-29 / ipamorelin. There are a bunch of peptides getting traction these days, they would be wrth looking at. Not miraculous on their own, but every little bit helps.

Be prepared to eat like a shark with the MK, and some of the other peptides will have a similar effect. That may or may not be a plus, depending upon the particular plateau you are trying to break through.

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-14-2023, 12:48 AM

If I were you, I wouldn't risk my ability to naturally make test over a cycle with a glorified TRT dose. How much muscle and strength do you think you can put on at that dose over the same period of time in comparison to you naturally being at 780ng/dl total? I would wager it wouldn't be that much. Meanwhile your body shuts down its production while you're on it. And yeah MK and your standard PCT protocol might help, but it's going to be a gamble.

If I was going to assume that risk, it'd be for a higher dosage so that I can at least the muscle and strength from it.

**tbjake34** · 08-24-2023, 04:54 PM

just thought id mention cuz this gets over looked a lot but bro if you want to run a cycle and recover well look into primo.. you could do a primo only cycle at say 400mg and get very little supression and recover very well imo. shit arnold and the boys did it