is hairloss dose dependent?

**xman** · 09-03-2003, 05:58 PM

From experience, I know that 500mg/wk of sust will thin out my hair. So if I do 750mg/wk of sust will this make even more hairt fall out?

**ironfist** · 09-03-2003, 10:24 PM

I'm not sure there. I do know that very high doses of deca and winstrol will make my hair fall out...

**RC_0891** · 09-03-2003, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by ironfist

I'm not sure there. I do know that very high doses of deca and winstrol will make my hair fall out...

how does deca compare with Winny in the hair loss realm? I didnt get any from deca..... my hair is like 15% grey at 25 anyways, but I would still like to keep the shit.

RC

**SirBen187** · 09-03-2003, 10:38 PM

I would think that hairloss is dose dependent, especially once you get into higher doses. It is the body's response to the medication at the androgen receptor, and an increase in medication will create an increase of androgen response.

**depdaddy** · 09-03-2003, 10:40 PM

i dont lose hair on deca but i do lose it on EQ...surprisingly im using Shanghai EQ 750mg week and very little hair loss...will be starting Shaghai winnie 50mg ed in 4 weeks ..ill see what happens then

**SirBen187** · 09-03-2003, 10:55 PM

dep, how do you like the EQ in a high dose like that?

**cfase** · 09-03-2003, 11:00 PM

Hairloss to the gear is usually only if you are genetically predisposed to MPB right. Or can you also lose hair if you arent predisposed?

C

**depdaddy** · 09-03-2003, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by SirBen187

dep, how do you like the EQ in a high dose like that?

so far so good..everything is very tight..i get a pump curling 30lbs..very weird but i do get tired very easily..i have to take a short nap during afternoon for about 30 minutes...acne high but im also on 20mg nolva ed so im not sure which is causing the acne

**SirBen187** · 09-04-2003, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by depdaddy

so far so good..everything is very tight..i get a pump curling 30lbs..very weird but i do get tired very easily..i have to take a short nap during afternoon for about 30 minutes...acne high but im also on 20mg nolva ed so im not sure which is causing the acne

I'm thinking it's probably not the nolva causing the acne. That's a pretty hefty dose and the sides will be more pronounced (but so will the gains!). How many weeks are you running it? Are you running without other AAS?

**depdaddy** · 09-04-2003, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by SirBen187

I'm thinking it's probably not the nolva causing the acne. That's a pretty hefty dose and the sides will be more pronounced (but so will the gains!). How many weeks are you running it? Are you running without other AAS?

1000mg test enanthate wk 14 weeks
750mg EQ week 13 weeks
winnie 75 mg ed weeks 6-12
clenie/eca stack weeks 4 on
nolvadex 20mg ed
hcg /clomid post cycle

**ironfist** · 09-04-2003, 01:11 PM

You are gonna need to try different things for yourself...I've used 2,000mg of test per week, 1,000mg eq per week, 100mg dbol per day, 200mg anadrol per day,150mg fina per day and no hairloss...Mind you I didn't take all this at the same time. winny at 200mg a day thins my hair and deca at 600mg per week kills my hair...

**SirBen187** · 09-04-2003, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by depdaddy

1000mg test enanthate wk 14 weeks
750mg EQ week 13 weeks
winnie 75 mg ed weeks 6-12
clenie/eca stack weeks 4 on
nolvadex 20mg ed
hcg/clomid post cycle

I like the looks of this cycle. Simple and effective. How many courses have you done?

**superchicken** · 09-05-2003, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by depdaddy

i dont lose hair on deca but i do lose it on EQ...surprisingly im using Shanghai EQ 750mg week and very little hair loss...will be starting Shaghai winnie 50mg ed in 4 weeks ..ill see what happens then

thats because deca is more friendly to the hair than your own testosterone . it is conveted to dhn i think its called instead of dht. it is much easier on the hair line.

**superchicken** · 09-05-2003, 12:38 AM

oh and yes, hair loss is very dose dependant

***the original jason*** · 09-05-2003, 02:46 AM

yep agree with SC hairloss is very dose dependant, the more test the more conversion to dht the more hairloss

peace

**ironfist** · 09-05-2003, 10:08 AM

That's also why I quit using deca altogether. You can use finasteride or dutasteride to limit alot of hairloss from test, dbol etc but you can't take them along with Deca...

**SirBen187** · 09-05-2003, 06:16 PM

I'm not ready to buy off on the idea that deca + finasteride = massive hairloss. I don't think the unconverted nandrolone is going to be any worse than dht or free testosterone . Any thoughts?