deca and dianabol first cycle-help

**remoz** · 09-17-2003, 01:59 AM

hi guys;
i need help im planning on doing my first cycle with deca and dianabol
need advice.

**jesse_james** · 09-17-2003, 02:10 AM

u shuld really add a test for better 1st time results. but otherwise run the deca for 12 weeks at 400mg/w, and the dbol for 4 weeks at 30-40mg/ed

**The Natural** · 09-17-2003, 03:36 AM

Screw it... Add test!!!

You dont want to experience the horrible deca -dick, bro!

Go for more test than deca and the dbol to kickstart your cycle!

Something like this:
wk 1-5: 30mg dbol/ED
wk 1-10: 400mg deca
wk 1-11: 500mg test enanthate

Clomid post cycle (wk 14-16)

Thats a very good first cycle!
Go for it instead!

**ENraged** · 09-17-2003, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by The Natural

Screw it... Add test!!!

You dont want to experience the horrible deca -dick, bro!

Go for more test than deca and the dbol to kickstart your cycle!

Something like this:
wk 1-5: 30mg dbol/ED
wk 1-10: 400mg deca
wk 1-11: 500mg test enanthate

Clomid post cycle (wk 14-16)

Thats a very good first cycle!
Go for it instead!

i have been told time and time again here that would be a hard first cycle so i am running prop and winny with a pct of clomid keeping nolva on hand as always

**The Natural** · 09-17-2003, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by ENraged

i have been told time and time again here that would be a hard first cycle so i am running prop and winny with a pct of clomid keeping nolva on hand as always

ITS NOT!!! I've done it with NO sides!

**remoz** · 09-17-2003, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by The Natural

ITS NOT!!! I've done it with NO sides!

thanks guys what do u think of the deit should be and how many pounds{solid muscle}should i expect by the end of the cycle.

**punk_bbuilder** · 09-17-2003, 11:41 AM

Lots and lots of food and protien, protien protien......Depends on your stats buddy...and genetics...some can gain a shitload some gain a mini shitload....I would expect good results.....What are your stats by the way?

**BUYLONGTERM** · 09-17-2003, 11:43 AM

Well, in terms of diet, it's the most important thing when doing a cycle. If your diet isn't good, you will be very unhappy! You need to eat!!!! rule of thumb:1 1/2-2grams of protein body weight. Also remember to get plenty of sleep.

Also, I agree with everyone above. THROW some test into the cycle.

**ENraged** · 09-17-2003, 12:04 PM

Now i thought dbol was very toxic and that was why the vets say to relax with some test and maybe a lean mass winny cycle

**Rookiejay** · 09-17-2003, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by remoz

hi guys;
i need help im planning on doing my first cycle with deca and dianabol
need advice.

What's your age, stats and goals?

**remoz** · 09-17-2003, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rookiejay

What's your age, stats and goals?

im 24,6'2',214lbs,10-12%fat,wanna become 250+lbs with 6-7%fat.what do u all think is the best way to get there need advice.

**TRE** · 09-17-2003, 02:17 PM

My first cycle was deca a test. I ran it a little funny but did put on 14 pounds

wk1 200 deca
wk2 300 deca
wk3 300 deca 30 dbol
wk4 400 deca 35 dbol
wk5 400 deca 30 dbol
wk6 300 deca 25 dbol
wk7 200 deca

Like I said funny.

**remoz** · 09-17-2003, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by TRE

My first cycle was deca a test. I ran it a little funny but did put on 14 pounds

wk1 200 deca
wk2 300 deca
wk3 300 deca 30 dbol
wk4 400 deca 35 dbol
wk5 400 deca 30 dbol
wk6 300 deca 25 dbol
wk7 200 deca

Like I said funny.

any side effects?

**TRE** · 09-17-2003, 02:23 PM

you want to get to 250 keep reading the board.

**Rookiejay** · 09-17-2003, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by remoz

im 24,6'2',214lbs,10-12%fat,wanna become 250+lbs with 6-7%fat.what do u all think is the best way to get there need advice.

If that's your goal - you might want to bulk up, then cut the fat.

I would go with dbol as a kick starter and Test E as the bulking base.

If you already have deca - it's a great bulking component with test E.

so
Option #1
1-4 Dbol 25 to 50mg (I'd start with 25mg and bump if needed)
1-10 Test E 400mg (or more if needed)
13 - PCT
1-PCT Nolva 20mg (or 10 if you use any other anti-e's)

Option #2
if you want to use deca (I like deca, but that's me....)
Great bulking cycle with deca and dbol:

1-4 Dbol 25 to 50mg (I'd start with 25mg and bump if needed)
1-12 Deca 200 mg E4d (or e3d if needed)
1-13 Test E 250 mg E4d (or e3d if needed)
16 - PCT
1-PCT Nolva 20mg (or 10 if you use any other anti-e's)
clen (if you want to cut some fat) during PCT.

Option #3
add winny to option #2
11-15 winny 25 to 50mg ed.

If it's your first cycle - option #1 is the best (with or without dbol).

if you have experience option #2 is the one to go.

If you have experience and you know how fast you can burn extra fat - I'd go with option #3

IMO

Hope that helps,

Jay