PCT Question

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-14-2003, 11:56 AM

Hey,

I am on week 10 now and this is my last week of Deca /Test Ent. I will be doing 2 more weeks of Test only and that's it. Should the 3 weeks be from the end of the Test or from my TEST/DECA....confused?

Bri

**halifaxsteve** · 10-14-2003, 12:03 PM

you need only run test till wk 11. you can then start pct wk 13

**pumpseeker** · 10-14-2003, 12:10 PM

Deca needs 3 weeks to clear before clomid. Test enanthate needs 2. So, if you want to start PCT at exactly the point where the deca and test leave your system simultaneously (the best time), run the test until week 11 like halifaxsteve said, but start clomid week 14...giving yourself 2 weeks in between your last shot of test and your first dose of clomid.

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-14-2003, 01:15 PM

OK,

Kinda sucks cause I preloaded 12 weeks, but no bigger. I will do the 11 weeks and then start exactly 2 weeks after my last shot of test. So Oct 24 will be my last Test Inj, so Pct of Clomid starts on Nov 7th.

Should I run Nolva all the way through?

**FrkyBgStok** · 10-14-2003, 01:17 PM

yeah couldn't hurt. some say its uneccessary, but i would recommend it at 20mg/day

**Rickson** · 10-14-2003, 02:07 PM

I think you are better off with your original plan. Go ahead and run the test two weeks past the deca then do the clomid two weeks after the test. The longer deca is out of your system the easier recovery will be.

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-14-2003, 03:47 PM

OK, now I don't know what to do.....any other thoughts....would it make a big difference if I added the extra week of test for 12 weeks and then ran clomid two weeks later.

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-14-2003, 03:48 PM

Hey,

Should I possibly just end my cycle this week w/o weeks 11 & 12 of test and just start the clomid 3 weeks from Thursday (my last shot Test/Deca shot)?

**halifaxsteve** · 10-15-2003, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by BiggerBri2002

Hey,

Should I possibly just end my cycle this week w/o weeks 11 & 12 of test and just start the clomid 3 weeks from Thursday (my last shot Test/Deca shot)?

no..do at least wk 11...but as some other guys said...you can do wk 12 as well...no harm in doing it

your call

**pumpseeker** · 10-15-2003, 07:39 AM

I'd go with what I said above:

1-10: deca
1-11: test
14-17: clomid
now-17: nolvadex

Rickson said you could run the test an extra week, which would make clomid 4 weeks after deca and 2 weeks after the test. I THINK the optimal time is 3 weeks after deca and 2 after test. Either way, I'm sure you'll be fine. Just don't run the deca past 10 weeks like SGFury said. In my experience, that's asking for deca dick. I ran it for 12 weeks and was impotent for 2 months afterwards! No joke.

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-15-2003, 08:01 AM

OK,

I'll go with what most of you guys said...I will run the test in week 11, then start the clomid 3 weeks later in week 14. I will run Nolva all the way through.

Thanks

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-15-2003, 08:03 AM

PS,

My last test shot is 10/24, so I will start Clomid 11/14...hope I got the math right

**DocHoliday** · 10-15-2003, 08:08 AM

Wait, am I mistaken or is the pct time for Test Enanthate 3 weeks?

On the fist day of the third week after your last shot of Enanthate is when you begin to administer PCT. Clomid and Nolva.

If I'm right, then like pumpseeker and halifax say, go to week 11, but like Rickson said the longer the Deca is out the better.

So now if you run to week 11 and wait till week three after that, you'll have four weeks off from Deca, and three off the Test Enanthate.

Mods? Vets?

Doc

**DocHoliday** · 10-15-2003, 08:08 AM

Phew, I re-read that, and boy that's a bit confusing. Sorry.

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-15-2003, 10:02 AM

Hey,

Doc, that is right. I am taking my 11th week of Test Ent next week on 10/20 and 10/24...so I will start Clomid on 11/14...3 weeks later

Bri

**DocHoliday** · 10-15-2003, 12:08 PM

Right, not two weeks.

Should do good. By the way, how were your results?

Stats before and now after. Also is that pic in your avatar you now or before?

Doc

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-15-2003, 01:39 PM

Doc,

Checkout my diary at this thread...pic and all in there:

http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulle...681#post632681

**DocHoliday** · 10-15-2003, 06:24 PM

Not bad, esp in the arm shoulder region. BACK DEF got better, you're back was lacking. And your definition did not decrease that much. When you lose some water weight you'll see it won't be bad. Nicely done. I hope to gain such results in my freggin calves!!!!!

LOL

Doc

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-16-2003, 09:27 AM

Doc,

Thanks, I was really doubting the whole experience until I took those pics the other day and I noticed quite a difference. YES, I have been working my back quite seriously and it's paid off.

Any thoughts on my next cycle guys????

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-16-2003, 09:28 AM

HEy ,

One more dumbe question. I was gonna do two shots of Test Ent in week 11, 250mg each. Can I up them to 500mg each? 1000mg for the entire last week?

Bri

**halifaxsteve** · 10-16-2003, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by BiggerBri2002

HEy ,

One more dumbe question. I was gonna do two shots of Test Ent in week 11, 250mg each. Can I up them to 500mg each? 1000mg for the entire last week?

Bri

I wouldn't recommend you do that. stick with your original plan

***Pheedno*** · 10-16-2003, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by BiggerBri2002

HEy ,

One more dumbe question. I was gonna do two shots of Test Ent in week 11, 250mg each. Can I up them to 500mg each? 1000mg for the entire last week?

Bri

No reason to do that at all.

**DocHoliday** · 10-16-2003, 06:25 PM

are you asking this because you'll have extra?

Vets, you'll have to approve this. If you know you'll have extra then why not pull just a hair over 1cc each draw this way you're doing slightly more than 500mg ew. Then at the end you won't have as much excess and feel as bad discarding it. Just make sure you do your math right and don't overdraw, cause you might leave yourself short the last week.

Doc

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-17-2003, 09:06 AM

Well yeah I do have extra. I preload 4 pins for the last two weeks thinking I was gonna do 12 weeks and not 11. So I have two pins with 250mg of Test Ent each that will go to waste.

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-17-2003, 09:39 AM

Hey,

Bud of mine is saying I should start Clen next week and run for the next 6-8 weeks (2 on/2 Off). Should I go for it? How is the liquid clen. If Im gonna do it, I need to order ASAP, so would appreciate quick feedback?

**DocHoliday** · 10-17-2003, 12:04 PM

I posted a thread about when to use clen . I got more responses saying to do it after my cycle and pct had ended and do it two weeks on two weeks off. I'm personally getting 126 pills for $50 and if I'm not mistaken that's cheaper than the liquid. Liquid stuff is usually cheaper though.

I wouldn't doubt the liquids. I'm going on liquid clomid and liquid nolva for pct, and when the shipment arrives keeping the liquid nolva on hand during my cycle.

Oh, what do you mean by pins?

**BiggerBri2002** · 10-17-2003, 12:16 PM

Doc,

By pins I mean needles

**DocHoliday** · 10-17-2003, 12:20 PM

but extracting from a vial, but it's too late to do what I said and evenly dispurse it to have each weeks dosage upped.

Oh well.

Save it..or do you have a dog?

JUST KIDDING. LOL