What happens if someone 6'4 240 mostly fat no muscle takes a cycle of test/deca?

**Juicifer** · 11-29-2003, 04:59 PM

i'm hoping if he eats clean he will shed some fat and put on some muscle....i know he should diet down but he really wants to do it and i really want to rip him off a lil cuz tis the season! i gutta get some gifts! if the guy is gonna get a heart attack i'm not gonna do it though

**956Vette** · 11-29-2003, 05:08 PM

he will probably just get fatter IMO. if he doesnt know what dedication is, training is, or dieting....what good is test/deca gonna do him? The test/deca will also give him a good addt'l bloat too, if he is a friend, advise against doing anything but diet/cardio.

**Juicifer** · 11-29-2003, 05:15 PM

not a good friend...but ppl want the easy way out...maybe some clen ? maybe some eq? i dunno i was a skinny **** i never had to deal w/ this ****i just bulked the whole way!

**jdog55** · 11-29-2003, 05:16 PM

Don't do that. He'll just get fatter! This is a question that actually deserves a serious answer. If you want to put him on a cycle go for it, just use the right ones. He might have a heart attack from the test,deca . He doesn't need to gain anymore weight.

My suggestion would be to give him this cycle and you keep the steroids and give them to him on a weekly basis. You have the upper hand to force him to diet. He'll love the feeling of being on the gear so he'll do it.

I'd give him a test,tren cycle and put his ass on the atkins diet the whole time. He'll lose a lot of weight and put on a little muscle using the atkins diet. He wont get ripped but this is the best advice i can give.

Jdog55

**Juicifer** · 11-29-2003, 05:19 PM

lol i havn't posted here lately...i never saw the *****'s

**Juicifer** · 11-29-2003, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by jdog55

Don't do that. He'll just get fatter! This is a question that actually deserves a serious answer. If you want to put him on a cycle go for it, just use the right ones. He might have a heart attack from the test,deca . He doesn't need to gain anymore weight.

My suggestion would be to give him this cycle and you keep the steroids and give them to him on a weekly basis. You have the upper hand to force him to diet. He'll love the feeling of being on the gear so he'll do it.

I'd give him a test,tren cycle and put his ass on the atkins diet the whole time. He'll lose a lot of weight and put on a little muscle using the atkins diet. He wont get ripped but this is the best advice i can give.

Jdog55

your a genius bro! thanks

**toolman** · 11-29-2003, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

he will probably just get fatter IMO. if he doesnt know what dedication is, training is, or dieting....what good is test/deca gonna do him? The test/deca will also give him a good addt'l bloat too, if he is a friend, advise against doing anything but diet/cardio.

I agree with 956Vette. As you should be the experienced one in that friendship, you should be able to talk him into a 6 month wait to make sure he diets and is dedicated shown via cardio and lifting. Gear is not something you jump into, especially if you fat.

**Juicifer** · 11-29-2003, 05:59 PM

i was one of those people who didn't start working out till i juiced and i am quite the specimen now...some ppl are just like that...not saying this person DEF should not wait...i'm gonna have a little talk with him first

**groverman1** · 11-29-2003, 06:24 PM

Tell him to learn the basics diet cardio and if he shows some dedication then maybe but as we all know AS is just a part of the equation.

**Gilster** · 11-29-2003, 06:30 PM

My first cycle ever was Deca 400 and sust 500 a week. I went from 20% bf to 15% bf. I put on a little fat after the cycle from the estro rebound but I was able to cut with test/deca. The key is that I had gone from 50%+ bf to 20% before the cycle so I was already eating right and getting the right amount of nutrition in the right amounts. If he just does it and is not eating 6-8 times a day and low carb, and high protein, he will not get anything but horny and maybe fatter.

**Surfárn** · 11-29-2003, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Juicifer

not a good friend...but ppl want the easy way out...maybe some clen? maybe some eq? i dunno i was a skinny **** i never had to deal w/ this ****i just bulked the whole way!

I'm a skinny ****er, got some nice proportions though. have been working out seriously for 3 years (5 at the whole) 6", 170. BF 11% any advise on a bulking cycle (first cycle) Jucifer?