Thread: mixed reviews pct for sus. 500
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01-05-2004, 12:43 AM #1
mixed reviews pct for sus. 500
i am not sure what to do, to many conflicting reviews,
i am running sust 500/week (250 2x week) for 10 weeks.
i have all the nolva, proviron , clomid, hcg , and clen i need.
from what i gather, this should be correct for pct?
run hcg at 500 iu eod on last two weeks of injection
run nolva at 20mg ed 2 weeks after last injection
run clomid at 100mg ed for 1 week and 50mg ed after that
and run clen on the start of clomid
does this sound right? i have been searchin for days now and i think that this pct would be ok. let me know what ya think. later
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01-05-2004, 12:49 AM #2
for sustanon you should start pct 3 weeks after last shot
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01-05-2004, 07:05 AM #3Originally Posted by blue03svt
For PCT run Clomid and Nolva to recover HPTA functuions:
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 22 - 28 20mg NolvaLast edited by TheMudMan; 01-05-2004 at 08:31 AM.
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01-05-2004, 07:27 AM #4
mudman always knows what he is talking about...i'm running a similar cycle
250mg every 4rth day (10 weeks total)-testoviron depot
proviron 50 mg ed
nolva 20 mg ed
PCT
3 weeks after my last shot of test
hcg 5000iu/week-20mg nolva ed
hcg 2500iu/week-20mg nolva ed
hcg 1500iu/week-20mg nolva ed
what u think about that mudman?
respect
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01-05-2004, 08:34 AM #5
That's fine but it's known if you use HCG too much it will then become less effective........ In a 10 week test cycle I wouldn't use HCG but use clomid and nolva and wait to use HCG for the heavier and longer cycles where HCG is needed. JMO
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01-06-2004, 10:16 AM #6New Member
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Can I ask mudman/others, do you think nolva is required during a cycle like that AS WELL as proviron ? Will it provide any benefits either for reduced bloat/other that you wouldn't get from proviron alone? I was thinking of not using it during and was hopeful proviron would be plenty good enough and nolva would only risk more gains?
My present plan:
Wk 1-10: Sust @ 400/wk
Wk 6-12: Var or Winny (dont know which yet?), 50mg/day
Wk 1-12: Proviron 50mg/day
Wk 13-15: Clomid 300/100/50, Nolva 20, Clen / ECA
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01-06-2004, 10:28 AM #7
I feel Nolva is needed........ Proviron will try to stop the conversion of test into estrogen but some may and will get by........ The Nolva will keep the excess estrogen from binding to the receptor site....... Nolva also acts as a serm to help out lipids.
I like using nolva and l-dex in my cycles though.
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01-06-2004, 11:54 AM #8
the only thing i cant figure yet is why people use 2 SERM (clomid and nolva) for their pct.i thought those two dont work together....i.ve also read something about that on bodybuilding.com an article by par deus.
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01-06-2004, 12:18 PM #9Originally Posted by damian
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01-06-2004, 04:08 PM #10
so basically i should only begin nolva when i start my pct and or keep it ready in case of gyno, correct?
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01-06-2004, 04:11 PM #11
i have plenty to run through this cycle but i am concerned about hindering my gains.
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01-06-2004, 04:33 PM #12Originally Posted by blue03svt
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01-06-2004, 04:46 PM #13Banned
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Originally Posted by DARKSEID
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01-06-2004, 04:51 PM #14
i have plenty to run through this cycle but i am concerned about hindering my gains.
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01-06-2004, 04:52 PM #15
opps ^
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01-06-2004, 04:54 PM #16Banned
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Originally Posted by blue03svt
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01-06-2004, 05:03 PM #17
sounds good toolman, i always thought the hindering of gains was b.s. thanks bro
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