First Cycle...cutting...CLEN?FINA?WINNY?MAST?PROP?

**Jackt23** · 04-01-2004, 10:00 PM

Hey guys, this is more for my boy but i told him id look into it for him...ive always been small so i never looked into cutting so im new to this....ive searched on a couple boards and cant find the info im looking for so i figured it was time to post.....

my boy is about 280....lifted for atleast 5 years that i know of..wrestled in HS....hes looking to drop about 40 lbs...but would be happy with 20 if possible...40 seems a little extreme but i dunno what these things can actually do...

i recieved some info from my other boy and he suggested fina and clen ....without any test...he says fina raises test anyway...i think hes full of **** but thats just my .02 .....maybe winny or clen or fina or masteron ..i dunno im drawing a blank

this will be his first cycle but hes up for anything
anyhelp will be greatly appreciated fellas..

thanks fellas...

JACKT

**inheritmylife** · 04-01-2004, 10:13 PM

Fina doesnt raise test, it raises trembolone, thats why test is needed.

To lose 40lbs., I'm assuming he is obese. He should work on diet, cardio, and maybe some clen or eca.

If he is truly that overweight, it will be better for him to lose weight at a slow, steady rate. That way he won't rebound quite as much because he has established good eating and exercize habits, instead of relying on an anabolic .

I would go for the clen or eca for now, and add some test after he has dieted for a few months and lost 10-15lbs on his own.

**ty1681** · 04-01-2004, 10:24 PM

Yo Bro... I Was 240 Last Year And Lost 40 Pounds In Ten Weeks
It Was A Body Rock Competition.... It Is Hell But It Is Possible......
I Took Test. Tren . Clen . And T3 Cytomel ......
Hit Me Back If You Need MORE INFO

**Jackt23** · 04-01-2004, 10:30 PM

yea i def need more info.....hes not all THAT fat...hes strong guy...but he does have some fat on him

so what u guys think for a first cycle for him...ill start and say test...at what doses? and what else? i mean for the most part is diet is ok...but he just needs a little help

**Jackt23** · 04-01-2004, 11:59 PM

bump for some help

**TheSevnthWarrior** · 04-02-2004, 12:44 AM

You don't have to be "fat" to lose 40lbs.
Well distributed fat can be extremely decieving.
I tell my Wife that I could lose 20lbs. and still not make it through Pre-Judging, and she just thinks I'm spun.

Weeks 1-14: Prop @ 100mg ED
Weeks 1-12: EQ @ 200mg ETD
Weeks 1-13: Tren @ 75mg ED
Weeks 7-14: Masteron @ 100mg ED
Weeks 1-14: Halo @ 60mg ED
Clen @ 120mcg ED, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, ECA on the off weeks.
T-3 @ 150mcg ED after ramping (ofcoarse MAllet now has that all jacked up for us...lol)
PCT

**Jackt23** · 04-02-2004, 01:00 AM

isnt that a little heavy for a first cycle bro??

700mg of test/wk?
400mg EQ/wk?
525mg Fina/wk?
700mg masteron /wk?

watch out Svend Karlson !! haha just messin' bro

***JDMSilviaSpecR*** · 04-02-2004, 02:39 AM

He has to radically adjust his diet. Do cardio 5-7 times a week on an empty stomach. Take a Test Prop/Clen /t3 combo for 8 weeks. Look into the educational subforums for info on cycling the clen and t3. 75% of it is his diet. if he can excercise some self-control and discipline, he CAN do it. I was a wrestler and I ran my ass off ed. We probably ran more then our track team. So, with at least 45 minutes of cardio (on an empty stomach) a clean diet (Look at the sticky on dieting or run a search) and the supplements =) he can drop to whatever weight he wants to achieve...over time.

**sepjuice** · 04-02-2004, 03:08 AM

i agree,kinda rough for a first cycle, maybe hit test enth,winny tabs, and clen . even that my be too much in ppl's opinion for a 1st cycle.

**Equiguns** · 04-02-2004, 03:32 AM

Yeah fat is deceiving. Before I started my cycle and dieted before I was running around 21% bf. People at my gym asked how I keep in such good shape??? Most of pthe people thought I was around 13-14% from the people I surveyed. Way off. People can hide it good....I can lose 15 pounds of fat and still look the same.