best physique in MMA

**smartwater** · 05-23-2006, 07:32 AM

my opinion at their best:

phil baroni
kevin randleman (best genetics)
sean sherk ( a little blokcy tho)
ken shamrock (without the gyno)

notable mentions:

kimo
mark kerr
a young vitor belfort

**biglouie250** · 05-23-2006, 07:40 AM

james irvin looked good when he beat terry martin, more of a fitness physique then the Baroni BB look.

how about tra taligman?

Box This* · 05-23-2006, 08:18 AM

James johnson like a old roman physic

**GQ-Bouncer** · 05-23-2006, 08:34 AM

LOL @ this thread

Kalib Starnes!

**simm** · 05-23-2006, 09:11 AM

Kerrs body when he fought gurgel...Nowadays in mma physique means shit tho if you can't fight...lol

**USfighterFC** · 05-23-2006, 11:31 AM

I gotta go with randleman....his physique is unreal.

**smartwater** · 05-23-2006, 11:41 AM

yea look at chuck lidell

**J.S.N.** · 05-23-2006, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by biglouie250

james irvin looked good when he beat terry martin, more of a fitness physique then the Baroni BB look.

did you see his fight where he got kayo'd by mike kyle? he had serioiusly the best physique on a fighter i've ever seen, including randleman and baroni. he was like 235 and just shredded.

**Natty99** · 05-23-2006, 12:51 PM

George St. Pierre

That's what I would like to look like. He's chisled

**J.S.N.** · 05-23-2006, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Natty99

George St. Pierre

That's what I would like to look like. He's chisled

ee can't 'andle my riddum

**Hunter** · 05-23-2006, 01:42 PM

gotta go with randleman on this one unreal so much potential just a shame

**Quil** · 05-23-2006, 01:52 PM

Randleman's leg's are freaking gigantic.

**USfighterFC** · 05-23-2006, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Natty99

George St. Pierre

That's what I would like to look like. He's chisled

I could be like that....but i'd have to drop 70 pounds.

**kihop** · 05-23-2006, 07:36 PM

Jamie Thompson, rich Franklin and Joe Son.

**smartwater** · 05-23-2006, 07:38 PM

yea randleman got excellent hams. v good symmerty overall

**j3374** · 05-23-2006, 08:41 PM

Ron Waterman, Ricardo Arona, Frank Shamrock, Marvin Eastman come to mind.
Bob Sapp is just unreal.

**D-Bo Dre** · 05-24-2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by smartwater

my opinion at their best:

phil baroni
kevin randleman (best genetics)
sean sherk ( a little blokcy tho)
ken shamrock (without the gyno)

notable mentions:

kimo
mark kerr
a young vitor belfort

I never knew Ken had or has gyno!!! Have I been hinding under a rock?
Has anyone seen him on the show, homeboy def. has some issues. Tito is an asshole toward him though .

**j3374** · 05-24-2006, 03:23 PM

He does have some wierd shaped pecks. I don't know if he has gyno or they just kind of point downward...

**j3374** · 05-24-2006, 03:24 PM

Gary Goodridge has some pretty bad gyno goin' on.

**THE_DOME** · 05-24-2006, 05:29 PM

show is always tight ken is just a loose cannon thats what i love about him. i wonder how many cycle ken has done

**gabriel595** · 05-24-2006, 08:15 PM

phil baroni says he doesn't lift weights. is that true?

**Hunter** · 05-24-2006, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by THE_DOME

show is always tight ken is just a loose cannon thats what i love about him. i wonder how many cycle ken has done

A few remember Ken was a pro wrestler so I would say he quite a few cycles I forget the exact weight but I remember my dad talking about how much bigger he was after he came back from his 4 year lay off from mma

**J.S.N.** · 05-24-2006, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by gabriel595

phil baroni says he doesn't lift weights. is that true?

does this answer your question?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=phil+bAroni

**j3374** · 05-24-2006, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by gabriel595

phil baroni says he doesn't lift weights. is that true?

LOL. Yeah, he just does Pilates.

**j3374** · 05-24-2006, 08:37 PM

That reminds me of the models in the bowflex commercials that look huge and try to claim their bowflex workouts for that.

**kihop** · 05-24-2006, 10:24 PM

I thought the majority of Hammer House are body builders and are also known for juicing..

**Natty99** · 05-25-2006, 11:43 AM

what a homo!!!!!!! Baroni is a fvckin tool

**j3374** · 05-25-2006, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by kihop

I thought the majority of Hammer House are body builders and are also known for juicing..

Fill Balogne is probably pretty much a bodybuilder, but Coleman and Randleman come from pretty hardcore wrestling backgrounds and probably do a lot of functional strength training.
I think most of the pro MMA fighters are using gear.

**catabolic kid** · 05-25-2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

gotta go with randleman on this one unreal so much potential just a shame

Alot of people say Randleman has/had alot of potential...I disagree.

What does it take to do well in MMA? Not pure athletic ability only.

Look at the best fighters in the world...Fedor, Noguierra, Sakuraba,Lidell, Couture.

In other words, all of the great fighters in MMA are not built like Randleman. It is mental strength and toughness...not physical.

A good example is Randleman VS Couture.

Randleman is a better wrestler, a better striker, a much better athlete and younger. How did Couture manage to beat Randleman? He has a mental advantage...that is the key to doing well in MMA.

**gabriel595** · 05-25-2006, 04:20 PM

damn i didn't know baroni was gay too...haha horrible gay poses. sorry guys i meant he didn't lift weights ANYMORE, i read an interview and he said that he is focusing on boxing, wrestling, bjj... and he isnt lifting weights and he said he won't do it anymore i don't know why but he still looks good i don't know how...

**taiotosh7** · 05-25-2006, 04:27 PM

My vote goes to Tank Abbott

**J.S.N.** · 05-25-2006, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by catabolic kid

A good example is Randleman VS Couture.

Randleman is a better wrestler, a better striker, a much better athlete and younger. How did Couture manage to beat Randleman? He has a mental advantage...that is the key to doing well in MMA.

hmm someone correct me if i'm wrong but i believe couture is actaully the more accomplished wrestler by a lot. he's been on national and olympic teams, and also it was in greco which generally translated better to mma than collegiate.

**Hunter** · 05-25-2006, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by catabolic kid

Alot of people say Randleman has/had alot of potential...I disagree.

What does it take to do well in MMA? Not pure athletic ability only.

Look at the best fighters in the world...Fedor, Noguierra, Sakuraba,Lidell, Couture.

In other words, all of the great fighters in MMA are not built like Randleman. It is mental strength and toughness...not physical.

A good example is Randleman VS Couture.

Randleman is a better wrestler, a better striker, a much better athlete and younger. How did Couture manage to beat Randleman? He has a mental advantage...that is the key to doing well in MMA.

I would say Couture has better striking and cardio. Also he is better at formulating game plans, Couture was a 2 all american placing 2nd twice along with being a 4 time greco national champion well in highschool. He also made the olympic team and was also a alternate. Randlemen was a 3 time all american winning the national title twice and placing 4th before that. There is a small line that seperates a national champion from a runner up in most cases. So you could consider there wrestling(folkstyle) pretty equal with a slight advantage going to Randleman and there wrestling(greco) not even close with a huge edge going to Couture. What I meant by so much potential is he had a great wrestling pedigree and all the physical abilities to be great. With all that I said I still agree a large part of it is mental

**catabolic kid** · 05-26-2006, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

I would say Couture has better striking and cardio. Also he is better at formulating game plans, Couture was a 2 all american placing 2nd twice along with being a 4 time greco national champion well in highschool. He also made the olympic team and was also a alternate. Randlemen was a 3 time all american winning the national title twice and placing 4th before that. There is a small line that seperates a national champion from a runner up in most cases. So you could consider there wrestling(folkstyle) pretty equal with a slight advantage going to Randleman and there wrestling(greco) not even close with a huge edge going to Couture. What I meant by so much potential is he had a great wrestling pedigree and all the physical abilities to be great. With all that I said I still agree a large part of it is mental

I know what you mean...a super athlete with great wrestling skill.

He did not do as well because he was not mentally as strong as Couture.

And, there wrestling may be compareable, but their is not doubt that Randleman is the better athlete...so, what separates them? Mental strength.

Also, Greco Roman wrestling does not translate into MMA better than freestyle/folkstyle. NOt even close.

Oh yeah, Couture may have cleaner punches...but Randleman is much more dangerous on his feet than Couture. IMO

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 05-26-2006, 11:25 AM

Baroni, hands down. theres even a part in this gay video that shows him like at 18 before the juice. He was skinny, but ripped! Then look at the ones where he's big. This video is hilarious!hahahahha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgNCq...=phil%20baroni

**D-Bo Dre** · 05-26-2006, 11:53 AM

Baroni should change his name to Barfruity.. Thank god those daisy duke jean days are over.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 05-26-2006, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by D-Bo Dre

Baroni should change his name to Barfruity.. Thank god those daisy duke jean days are over.

those chinese girls seemed to like them,lol!

**Hunter** · 05-26-2006, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by catabolic kid

I know what you mean...a super athlete with great wrestling skill.

He did not do as well because he was not mentally as strong as Couture.

And, there wrestling may be compareable, but their is not doubt that Randleman is the better athlete...so, what separates them? Mental strength.

Also, Greco Roman wrestling does not translate into MMA better than freestyle/folkstyle. NOt even close.

Oh yeah, Couture may have cleaner punches...but Randleman is much more dangerous on his feet than Couture. IMO

Always nice to have mature discussion, points well taken. I do agree Randleman was missing in the mental part. I dont think Greco or freestyle/folkstyle translate better I think it depends alot on the athlete. A great example imo is Couture and Henderson both great greco wrestlers with Henderson even having the better pedigree but his wrestling did not translate into mma as well as coutures(one could argue the use of the fence). So I think it depends alot on the athlete and they addiditional skills they pick up along the way

**TheDfromGC** · 05-26-2006, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by gabriel595

damn i didn't know baroni was gay too...haha horrible gay poses. sorry guys i meant he didn't lift weights ANYMORE, i read an interview and he said that he is focusing on boxing, wrestling, bjj... and he isnt lifting weights and he said he won't do it anymore i don't know why but he still looks good i don't know how...

i remember reading this too, the reason he said was that he has such good genetics for gaining muscle, hes one of those guys that would do weight training once a week and gain 2 lbs of muscle. basically just wants to stay at 185.