TUF 3 middleweight fight

**zimmy** · 05-08-2006, 10:05 PM

now i am watching this season sparingly...but i saw that big middleweight fighter with the jacked teeth say that same ol striker sh*t. "all it takes is one punch". JEEEEEZ. Will these people EVER get past relying on that. Funny thing is... that is all it took...one week kick to the head to take a tired ass guy down.

**Ammar** · 05-08-2006, 10:08 PM

lol a grappler will beat a striker 90% of the time...unless the striker is like Liddell with a phenomenal sprawl.

**zimmy** · 05-08-2006, 10:09 PM

well liddell is a champion wrestler too...can't forget that

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 05-08-2006, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by zimmy

now i am watching this season sparingly...but i saw that big middleweight fighter with the jacked teeth say that same ol striker sh*t. "all it takes is one punch". JEEEEEZ. Will these people EVER get past relying on that. Funny thing is... that is all it took...one week kick to the head to take a tired ass guy down.

tell that to nate quarry after his match with franklin

that one punch knocked his ass out hard

**zimmy** · 05-08-2006, 10:44 PM

it's one thing to be prepared for an even matched fight and land a lucky / solid ONE shot... but it's another to train and hope for a one blow fight

**kihop** · 05-08-2006, 11:29 PM

Only really good "pure" strikers currently in MMA (excluding K-1) are Chuck and Cro Cop.

That being said, that dude missing his tooth was annoying. His over confidence resulted in him not seeing a sloppy ass kick to the dome piece.

**Quil** · 05-08-2006, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by Billy_Bathgate

tell that to nate quarry after his match with franklin

that one punch knocked his ass out hard

Dude, that was one of the hardest, cleanest punches I've seen. Wow.

**skinnyhb** · 05-09-2006, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by kihop

Only really good "pure" strikers currently in MMA (excluding K-1) are Chuck and Cro Cop.

That being said, that dude missing his tooth was annoying. His over confidence resulted in him not seeing a sloppy ass kick to the dome piece.

chuck was a D1 wrestler and i think is a purple belt in bjj. thats why he can keep it standing.

**scriptfactory** · 05-09-2006, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by kihop

Only really good "pure" strikers currently in MMA (excluding K-1) are Chuck and Cro Cop.

That being said, that dude missing his tooth was annoying. His over confidence resulted in him not seeing a sloppy ass kick to the dome piece.

Not entirely true. His fatique played a large part in that KO because that kick was telegraphed and sloppy as hell. Solomon was trying to duck the kick but was too slow, due to extremely poor cardio, and caught a knee instead of a foot or shin. Just goes to show you that a technically superior and more powerful fighter will lose if his cardio sucks. Ken should know that and he should have been training his fighters a LOT harder, especially the middleweights. I can't even count the number of fights I've seen lost due to poor cardio, and Tito knows this.

**juiceboxxx** · 05-09-2006, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Billy_Bathgate

tell that to nate quarry after his match with franklin

that one punch knocked his ass out hard

no offense but quarry is no challenge. I think I canbeat him up

He wasn't ready for that fight against Franklin. Franklin was way to powerfull for him.

**simm** · 05-09-2006, 04:34 AM

Imo shorther guys need better cardio than taller guys in the same weight division as themselves,as armspan/legs come into play later on in the fight and it is then harder for the shorter guy to close distance etc cause he is gassed..Gassed = Ko'd

**GQ-Bouncer** · 05-09-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by kihop

Only really good "pure" strikers currently in MMA (excluding K-1) are Chuck and Cro Cop.

That being said, that dude missing his tooth was annoying. His over confidence resulted in him not seeing a sloppy ass kick to the dome piece.

excellent example (Cro Cop)

he actually has his blackbelt in Aiki Jujitsu - just goes to show what kind of training you need these days to be successful

**GQ-Bouncer** · 05-09-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by kihop

Only really good "pure" strikers currently in MMA (excluding K-1) are Chuck and Cro Cop.

That being said, that dude missing his tooth was annoying. His over confidence resulted in him not seeing a sloppy ass kick to the dome piece.

excellent example (Cro Cop)

he actually has his blackbelt in Aiki Jujitsu - just goes to show what kind of training you need these days to be successful