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    Thumbs up DeLahoya Mayweather May 5th

    Should hit record PPV numbers. I'll buy it just to see pretty boy get hit and see how he deals with that.

    My guess is when Oscar adjusts to the speed of Floyd in 4 or 5, "pretty" might not be the appropriate nickname going into the latter rounds at 154lbs.

    "should" be a good fight non-the-less

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    will defo have to watch that one, as you say it will be a good fight. a would like to see ricky hatton and mayweather.

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    Thats right mayweather go fight the over the hill delahoya then retire .... cardboard cut out pound 4 pound fighter.

    Look at mayweathers last 6 fights 5 of them were No chancers or over the hill over 34 years of age fighters.

    I hope delahoya kicks his ass.

    Mayweather pound 4 pound Pussy cat ... avoiding the real fights.

    Same old money making schemes thats been happening for years now.

    The fighters who deserve the chances aint getting them because it all revolves around the Money.. Not boxing !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Box This*
    Thats right mayweather go fight the over the hill delahoya then retire .... cardboard cut out pound 4 pound fighter.

    Look at mayweathers last 6 fights 5 of them were No chancers or over the hill over 34 years of age fighters.

    I hope delahoya kicks his ass.

    Mayweather pound 4 pound Pussy cat ... avoiding the real fights.

    Same old money making schemes thats been happening for years now.

    The fighters who deserve the chances aint getting them because it all revolves around the Money.. Not boxing !
    Money? Aint that the truth...A few more good fights and it's over for me. It's sickening for lack of a better word.

    Problem with the first half of your comment is the word "hope" F**K hope BT! DeLahoya 34 or not will without a dought make sure Mayweather knows he's in a real fight. We will see Pretty Boy's chin and resiliency tested. We've already seen Oscar tested over and over and over again and somehow I don't see a body shot from the "pussy cat" kneeling Oscar. I respect him as a true champion of the sport. But, Floyd?

    Man it would be nice to see a 7-8 round TKO
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    you cant deny pretty boy's speed but against a veteran fighter like Oscar, he will def. be put to the test.. I dont think either will get knocked out.. it will go to a decision.. Oscar!

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    While I will be rooting for Oscar, I don't think he can beat Pretty Boy. Aside from the Mayorga KO, Oscar's last few fights haven't been pretty. He was KO'ed by Hopkins, "won" a questionable decision over Felix Sturm and lost a unanimous decision to Shane Mosley. I think Oscar is past his prime at age 33, while Floyd is peaking right now.

    Floyd by UD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box This*

    Same old money making schemes thats been happening for years now.

    The fighters who deserve the chances aint getting them because it all revolves around the Money.. Not boxing !
    Great point! Boxing is the only sport where matches are made around public demand (i.e., profit potential) and not merit. For that reason, it will always be corrupt. I PRAY someone cleans it up; I love the sport too much...

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    ricky hatton and mayweather is classic mismatch

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_AM_HE
    ricky hatton and mayweather is classic mismatch
    Agreed it would look like Mayweather Gatti 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box This*
    Thats right mayweather go fight the over the hill delahoya then retire .... cardboard cut out pound 4 pound fighter.

    Look at mayweathers last 6 fights 5 of them were No chancers or over the hill over 34 years of age fighters.

    I hope delahoya kicks his ass.

    Mayweather pound 4 pound Pussy cat ... avoiding the real fights.

    Same old money making schemes thats been happening for years now.

    The fighters who deserve the chances aint getting them because it all revolves around the Money.. Not boxing !
    Yea but look at who he has fought;
    Jesus Chavez
    Angel Manfredy
    Emmanuel Augustus
    Diego Corrales
    Carlos Hernandez
    Jose Louis Castillox2
    Victoriano Sosa
    Phillip N'dou
    Demarcus Chop Chop Corley
    Zab Judah
    Carlos Baldomir who was the Linear Welterweight champ
    My biggest interest in this fight is how Pretty boy will handle 154 pounds, if he keeps his speed Oscar is a sitting duck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedbear981
    Yea but look at who he has fought;
    Jesus Chavez
    Angel Manfredy
    Emmanuel Augustus
    Diego Corrales
    Carlos Hernandez
    Jose Louis Castillox2
    Victoriano Sosa
    Phillip N'dou
    Demarcus Chop Chop Corley
    Zab Judah
    Carlos Baldomir who was the Linear Welterweight champ
    My biggest interest in this fight is how Pretty boy will handle 154 pounds, if he keeps his speed Oscar is a sitting duck
    Good point... its gonna be interesting.. Oscar is no push around boxer.. and knowing that it will prob. be his last fight, I expect he will be in top condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_AM_HE
    ricky hatton and mayweather is classic mismatch
    what do you mean by classic mismatch mate?

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    its that most fans think the hitman would have a chance cuz of his style and all his hype but at the end of the day floyd would run circle around him for 12 rounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_AM_HE
    its that most fans think the hitman would have a chance cuz of his style and all his hype but at the end of the day floyd would run circle around him for 12 rounds
    My opinion Hatton would give mayweather to much punishment his work rate is by fare more superior then mayweathers.

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    Mayweather would slice Hatton's face up...

    Hatton turned down fight offers numerous times already anyways...

    Mayweather SD12 De La Hoya

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC2007
    Mayweather would slice Hatton's face up...

    Hatton turned down fight offers numerous times already anyways...

    Mayweather SD12 De La Hoya
    Since when did hatton turn down a mayweather fight ?

    Try! mayweather is retiring after the delahoya fight at 29 years of age. He hasnt had a career yet ... hes trying his luck at a beaten delahoya.

    Hatton has never ever ducked mayweather it just wasnt right for hatton to fight a heavier apponent after his first world title fight. Especialy when mayweather made a calander with all the fighters on accept worthy ones.

    Put it this way every body has had some some bloke in there life known as some good fighter he reaches the the over the hill age and some up and coming kid comes along knocks him out and takes all the reputation the older bloke earned his whole life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box This*
    Since when did hatton turn down a mayweather fight ?

    Try! mayweather is retiring after the delahoya fight at 29 years of age. He hasnt had a career yet ... hes trying his luck at a beaten delahoya.

    Hatton has never ever ducked mayweather it just wasnt right for hatton to fight a heavier apponent after his first world title fight. Especialy when mayweather made a calander with all the fighters on accept worthy ones.

    Put it this way every body has had some some bloke in there life known as some good fighter he reaches the the over the hill age and some up and coming kid comes along knocks him out and takes all the reputation the older bloke earned his whole life.
    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0504c06.htm
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...976438,00.html

    Choose whichever link you want...

    Surely you don't really believe Floyd's gonna retire... there'll be another rematch with Oscar... too much money on the line..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC2007
    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0504c06.htm
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...976438,00.html

    Choose whichever link you want...

    Surely you don't really believe Floyd's gonna retire... there'll be another rematch with Oscar... too much money on the line..
    They turned it down last year as for basicly the reasons i said ... mayweather was basicly to heavy and hatton needed a couple of fights to get used the weight but mayweather didnt want to wait.

    But now ricky has got a couple of fights under his belt mayweather is looking more for another easy challenge ... im not saying delahoya is an easy challenge because hes far from it...hes had losses wich gives mayweather a bit more edge into the fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box This*
    They turned it down last year as for basicly the reasons i said ... mayweather was basicly to heavy and hatton needed a couple of fights to get used the weight but mayweather didnt want to wait.

    But now ricky has got a couple of fights under his belt mayweather is looking more for another easy challenge ... im not saying delahoya is an easy challenge because hes far from it...hes had losses wich gives mayweather a bit more edge into the fight.
    De La Hoya losing before doesn't give Mayweather an edge... Floyd is moving up to 154 against a heavier Oscar...

    Besides, Ricky went back down to 140 after Collazo nearly knocked him out in his Welterweight debut....

    Don't get me wrong I'm a huge Hatton fan but Floyd would pick him apart...

    Cotto and Hatton would be great but Cotto's not moving from 147 now..

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    I agree Mayweather/Hatton would look similar to Mayweather/Gatti...but so what. Again, this sport has got to be put into brackets.

    Another note here is that there seems to be a general consensus that DeLehoya is old, beaten and tired. The more I look at him now and where he has been the last 4 years, I will tell you this ~ his training has got to bring him into this fight sharper and stronger than he was against Mayorga.

    I have seen every DeLahoya fight. I have seen most (the one's against a legitimate contender) of the Mayweather fights. They are both great fighters.

    There is one element missing for me to accurately call a more than likely scenerio. The element is the durability of Mayweathers chin. Like RJJ for so many years, I have never seen Floyd hit with a solid combination of shots to the head.

    So what I'm left with is a decision favoring Mayweather strictly based on speed and points, or-

    Can Floyd be TKO'd? Can Oscar rock him enough with the counter and left hooks to get a decision?

    It has the makings of a great fight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 511220
    I agree Mayweather/Hatton would look similar to Mayweather/Gatti...but so what. Again, this sport has got to be put into brackets.

    Another note here is that there seems to be a general consensus that DeLehoya is old, beaten and tired. The more I look at him now and where he has been the last 4 years, I will tell you this ~ his training has got to bring him into this fight sharper and stronger than he was against Mayorga.

    I have seen every DeLahoya fight. I have seen most (the one's against a legitimate contender) of the Mayweather fights. They are both great fighters.

    There is one element missing for me to accurately call a more than likely scenerio. The element is the durability of Mayweathers chin. Like RJJ for so many years, I have never seen Floyd hit with a solid combination of shots to the head.

    So what I'm left with is a decision favoring Mayweather strictly based on speed and points, or-

    Can Floyd be TKO'd? Can Oscar rock him enough with the counter and left hooks to get a decision?

    It has the makings of a great fight!
    Oscar is going to be the more powerful man and bigger man of course.. I don't think Floyd will weigh more than 150 on fight night. Floyd got rocked by Corley and he took a few good shots from Judah, he has a chin but you're right, I haven't seen him hit with combinations... Who knows if we ever will. Oscar's going to be hitting the air all night. It will look just like Whitaker and De La Hoya all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC2007
    Oscar's going to be hitting the air all night. It will look just like Whitaker and De La Hoya all over again.
    Man I sure hope that is not the case. I always hate seeing greats at the end of their careers looking slow and sloppy...maybe Oscar will be on the same drugs Hopkins was on training for the Tarver fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by 511220
    Man I sure hope that is not the case. I always hate seeing greats at the end of their careers looking slow and sloppy...maybe Oscar will be on the same drugs Hopkins was on training for the Tarver fight
    Yeah, Bernard's choice of drug was Mackie Shilstone...

    Oscar will walk through Floyd's punches no doubt but he's going to be missing alot of the ones he throws I reckon...

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    De La HOya will test Mayweather

    First of all what elite fighter has mayweather ever been in the ring with? Oscar? I can't even name them all. Even when oscar lost he was very competitive and only lost close split and very questionable decisions. Trinidad got lucky, he really did lose against oscar and he knows it that is why he never wanted to fight him again. Mosely beat oscar in the first fight, but in the second one oscar got robbed. Hopkins was having a hard time with oscars speed before the body shot that floored oscar. In all fights he was never dominated, always in the fight. He has been through adversity, Ike quartey, knock out good fighters, ike quartey, fernando vargas, obba carr. David kamau. Fighters I deeply know mayweather would never dare to fight,.

    I don't trust mayweathers father training de la hoya though. Blood is always thicker than water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box This*
    They turned it down last year as for basicly the reasons i said ... mayweather was basicly to heavy and hatton needed a couple of fights to get used the weight but mayweather didnt want to wait.

    But now ricky has got a couple of fights under his belt mayweather is looking more for another easy challenge ... im not saying delahoya is an easy challenge because hes far from it...hes had losses wich gives mayweather a bit more edge into the fight.
    Ricky also told Fightnew.com after he sat ringside for the gatti mayweather fight doing commentary for Sky he "wants no part" of mayweather in the near future...Also hatton never got used to the weight and ducked back down after collazo almost KHTFO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box This*
    Thats right mayweather go fight the over the hill delahoya then retire .... cardboard cut out pound 4 pound fighter.

    Look at mayweathers last 6 fights 5 of them were No chancers or over the hill over 34 years of age fighters.

    I hope delahoya kicks his ass.

    Mayweather pound 4 pound Pussy cat ... avoiding the real fights.

    Same old money making schemes thats been happening for years now.

    The fighters who deserve the chances aint getting them because it all revolves around the Money.. Not boxing !
    wow. gotta disagree with ya on that. not the money part, thats a no brainer. mayweather beat zab. beat baldomir, k'oed gatti, ko mitchell. i was at the bruseles fight, beat the hell out of him. who's oscar fightin? sugar shane killed him, hopkins beat his a*s. lucky to beat felix sturm. very lucky. looked good against mayorga. he def has the advantage at being a natural 154. i think his last 5 fights or so anyway. floyed has only moved up from lightweight since 03. he's up 2 weight classes. if he beats delahoya then he'll have to fight spinks, ouma, vargas, etc... but he physically has not had the time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosvaquez2001
    First of all what elite fighter has mayweather ever been in the ring with? Oscar? I can't even name them all. Even when oscar lost he was very competitive and only lost close split and very questionable decisions. Trinidad got lucky, he really did lose against oscar and he knows it that is why he never wanted to fight him again. Mosely beat oscar in the first fight, but in the second one oscar got robbed. Hopkins was having a hard time with oscars speed before the body shot that floored oscar. In all fights he was never dominated, always in the fight. He has been through adversity, Ike quartey, knock out good fighters, ike quartey, fernando vargas, obba carr. David kamau. Fighters I deeply know mayweather would never dare to fight,.

    I don't trust mayweathers father training de la hoya though. Blood is always thicker than water.
    he was down 79-73 and 78-74 on two cards when hopkins "caught" him. felix sturm beat his dick in the ground and HE got robbed. floyd could not fight those other guys even if he wanted he only weighed 130 when oscar was fighting them. vargas was at 54 and carr was at 47 at the time.

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    Yeah I think this could go anyway,Delahoya has been screwed by the judges twice so for delehoya to win I think he needs a knockout,but skillz I would say mayweather has a edge but as far as style and power I wouild have to go with delahoya,There defence is equal,This fight can go either way you know

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    I dont mayweather has fought the elite compition that delahoya has and Im pulling for delahoya but you got to remember that mayweather has beat a prime diego corrales,castillo,a very good pressure fighter chavez, arturo gatti,and a very focused Zab judah so I mean he hasnt fought any pushovers at all,and zab brought his A game and won the first 4 rounds maybe 5 and dropped him and mayweather still came back to win the last 6 rounds,so I mean you cant count either fighter out I could go on and on about this

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    But dam I think this is going to be a hard one,I just hope the judges are fair about this one because I have seen too many fighters get robbed

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