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    i dont feel like trainning tonight...

    i dont know, just feel burnt out. bjj is in 30 minutes, adv. submission grappling is after that, and adv mma is after that. when i get back i have to have a physio psych project in by midnight. its time to get motivated and all i want to do is take a nap. ive got an amateur fight in 5 weeks and its the only reason i know im going to get up after i finish this. ive started stepping up trainning frequency the last week or so and im feeling good and beat up. my buddies say they are going to help get me work, but one by one they seem to find new excuses for inconsistent trainning. i did some climbing today and i know its going to be near to impossible to grip a gi sleeve. ill get to try on my new gi pants, they are a size smaller so hopefully they'll wont drag like the others. alright, i feel better now that i got my puss out. time to be a man, get off my bed, and go do work.

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    With 5 weeks out you should be focusing on peaking for that fight. If your mentally not there taking a day off will be more benificial then going and putting in a half ass work out. Just listen to your body, I like to use a calander and perodize my training so I know when I will peak. Good luck.

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    also... if you aren't into mentally you coul dhurt yourself...thaz no good.


    mn fighter...that's what distance runners do too :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmy
    also... if you aren't into mentally you coul dhurt yourself...thaz no good.


    mn fighter...that's what distance runners do too :P
    I did it for wrestling. I cut alot alot of weight wrestling to much so I needed to know when to peak for state and stuff. It works now to

    On a side note, I am getting really sick of all these jackass's in our club being little girls about cutting weight. Its not fun but no need to be a little girl about it you know? 10 pound cut if 3 days is pretty damn reasonable. I curse TUF for making every R-Tard want to get into MMA. I hate rolling with guys who are spazes, its like being thrown into a sack with wrenches and shaken around. I hate TUF for making every johny fratboy want to get into mma. If one more jackass comes in and says I want to sign up for ultimate fighting training, I will probably freak out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn_fighter
    I did it for wrestling. I cut alot alot of weight wrestling to much so I needed to know when to peak for state and stuff. It works now to

    On a side note, I am getting really sick of all these jackass's in our club being little girls about cutting weight. Its not fun but no need to be a little girl about it you know? 10 pound cut if 3 days is pretty damn reasonable. I curse TUF for making every R-Tard want to get into MMA. I hate rolling with guys who are spazes, its like being thrown into a sack with wrenches and shaken around. I hate TUF for making every johny fratboy want to get into mma. If one more jackass comes in and says I want to sign up for ultimate fighting training, I will probably freak out.
    LOL...funny stuff, thats so true.

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    Lol i know what you mean mn i teach a BJJ class and every week i get someone coming in wanting to be the next ultimate fighter! And many are crazy guys who think you have to kill your opponent during rolling so we can hardly get any quality technical stuff done ever!! And they go online on youtube and learn neck cranks and leg subs and they come in and do them full force and i end up losing people to injuries.

    I myself have been hurt by new guys who are just insane, thats why in relation to this thread i have concluded that if i feel burned out or not there i will not roll with anyone because just being off that night and just defending will get me hurt eventually, which is what happened yesterday and i got put in a keylock and the guy hooked it trying to break my arm and this morning i had to call my physio/chiro to get an appointment to get it checked out this evening, i hate injuries and even more i hate injuries cause in training by screwed up training partners!

    So either i go in there only when i'm ready to roll 110%, or i wont go in there at all, i really cant afford to have any serious injuries because i have a day job and they will fire me if i come in here injured from sports and unable to type or write or walk or whatever the injury is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armbar83
    i dont know, just feel burnt out. bjj is in 30 minutes, adv. submission grappling is after that, and adv mma is after that. when i get back i have to have a physio psych project in by midnight. its time to get motivated and all i want to do is take a nap. ive got an amateur fight in 5 weeks and its the only reason i know im going to get up after i finish this. ive started stepping up trainning frequency the last week or so and im feeling good and beat up. my buddies say they are going to help get me work, but one by one they seem to find new excuses for inconsistent trainning. i did some climbing today and i know its going to be near to impossible to grip a gi sleeve. ill get to try on my new gi pants, they are a size smaller so hopefully they'll wont drag like the others. alright, i feel better now that i got my puss out. time to be a man, get off my bed, and go do work.
    hey time is running out. you cant get these days back. you say you got 5 weeks? well if you put a pencil to it you only got 15days, provideing that you train 5 days a week, and by the way you should never count the last week as training. if youve been training hard enough that should be your recovery week, light duty work only. you dont have as much time as you think you do. push push push !!!!! just like mn_fighter saide, you should be peaking right know. in the next 2 weeks really work on that.theres no better time than the present. good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rooster101
    hey time is running out. you cant get these days back. you say you got 5 weeks? well if you put a pencil to it you only got 15days, provideing that you train 5 days a week, and by the way you should never count the last week as training. if youve been training hard enough that should be your recovery week, light duty work only. you dont have as much time as you think you do. push push push !!!!! just like mn_fighter saide, you should be peaking right know. in the next 2 weeks really work on that.theres no better time than the present. good luck.
    thanks guys, it was a good practice. i actually did the bjj class, and decided i was done for the night.

    my school does mondays through thursdays hard and then friday through sunday is more relaxed with mixed open mat and sporadic classes. it helps me get more of a break on fridays-sat.

    i really like that calender idea i really dont know anything about the whole peaking thing. this is my first fight so its a learning experience. im rolling at 172 tonight and the fights at 155 so im feeling good.

    if you guys have any other ideas on prepping for the fight id love to hear them.

    mn what does your pre fight month look like? like days off and on and what you train each day...like stand up and ground everyday? how many days a week do you spar hard? ect...

    thanks again guys, i really do like hearing how you guys train and approach fighting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by armbar83
    thanks guys, it was a good practice. i actually did the bjj class, and decided i was done for the night.

    my school does mondays through thursdays hard and then friday through sunday is more relaxed with mixed open mat and sporadic classes. it helps me get more of a break on fridays-sat.

    i really like that calender idea i really dont know anything about the whole peaking thing. this is my first fight so its a learning experience. im rolling at 172 tonight and the fights at 155 so im feeling good.

    if you guys have any other ideas on prepping for the fight id love to hear them.


    mn what does your pre fight month look like? like days off and on and what you train each day...like stand up and ground everyday? how many days a week do you spar hard? ect...

    thanks again guys, i really do like hearing how you guys train and approach fighting...
    It really depends since I believe in specific training for an opponent. Also I come from a very strong grappling background with some boxing so that changes it also for me 1 month it would look like this

    LIC(low intensity cardio)
    HIC(High intensity cardio)
    MMAS(mma sparring-geared specifically towards the fight how I want it to go) I still spar but I practice implimenting the game plan.
    Rolling(bjj-CSW going over specifics I need to work on or look for watch for etc)
    Sparring just like rolling only with boxing-kickboxing I look at what I need to work on and what I need to improve on. I would go like lets say its monday I would say today is LIC and MMAS. Then tommarow is HIC and Rolling or sparring. I go two days on one day off. This has helped alot in my fights becouse my CNS is not getting so taxed during training. On your days off I may still go for a light run or some light rolling but nothing that will really tax me

    A month-month in a half before I normally stop all weight lifting and focus 100% on my game plan and putting it together. I did not add stretching, yoga, mind balancing into my day either that is just how I train my sparring and gameplaning. I stretch for an hour every day plus yoga 3 times a week and 3 times a week mind balancing.
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    How I train allows me anyway to not overtrain and on my hard sparring days I can do way more work and do it better becouse my cns is not to taxed. I hard spar 2-3 times a week. Lets say I have a month to get ready

    week 1 not as much sparring more techinical making sure I am techinically there for the fight
    week 2 more sparring
    week 3 more sparring harder
    week 4 brushing up exactly on the game plan.

    This works for me, some of what I do is like Sean sherk and some is based around some ideas I have read the Bj Penn has put down.

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    nice mn

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    hey i really appreciate the detailed response mn, thanks for taking the time!

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    No problem

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    The best advice I can give you is be completely honest with yourself. Know your strengths but more importantly know your weakness's. When you figure out your game plan, practice implimenting it in different situtions. Lets say your fighting a good wreslter and your plan is to keep it standing till you can score a takedown. I would start practicing scenario's for example have a guy already get a takedown and practice scrambling/sweeps. Then practice with a guy already in on a takedown and practice hip movement(ie half sprawl). Then practice someone who is a hard striker so you can get an idea of shooting in when your being hit. Etc I love playing out scenerio's becouse I find when I do this if the game plan always works becouse I am prepared to make it work in any sitution. Good luck armbar.

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    yah, i agree with you, i probably get the most out of scenario based trainning. if you do something enough times as a result of that scenario, it starts to become instinctual. i wish i could develop a gameplan but im not sure who ill be fighting. im pretty well rounded. besides a few of our pros, there arn't many guys who are better at standup and ground than me. im usually better than someone at one or the other, so im not worried. right now its just getting mentally there and my lungs ready. thanks again!

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    Also armbar read "the art of war" Sun Tzu, it will change the way you look at game planning and what not. Also Read 5 rings by musashi also change the way you game plan. Armbar if you ever have a question on anything you can shoot me a pm.

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    thank you very much mn...

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    I'LL TAKE YOU BOTH ON... AT THE SAME TIME... RAWWWWRRRR...

    lol sorry jk

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    Quote Originally Posted by armbar83
    thank you very much mn...
    Also armbar next fight, when you cut I highly reccomend carb cycling. One is it depletes you off water, remember 1 gram of carbs hold 3 grams of water. Also if you time it right you can have a high carb day(lots of energy) the day of the fight and still make weight(that is if you have same day weigh ins). I just modified Marcus3000's prime for it and I have never felt drained cutting. Just some food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn_fighter
    Also armbar next fight, when you cut I highly reccomend carb cycling. One is it depletes you off water, remember 1 gram of carbs hold 3 grams of water. Also if you time it right you can have a high carb day(lots of energy) the day of the fight and still make weight(that is if you have same day weigh ins). I just modified Marcus3000's prime for it and I have never felt drained cutting. Just some food for thought.
    you dont notice that this makes you feel weaker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by armbar83
    you dont notice that this makes you feel weaker?
    Not at all, I timed it so my fight day was my high carb day I did not feel weak becouse every 4th day was a high carb day. I found it is the best way to diet for me well keeping all my strength and endurance.

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    cool so you deplete for 3 days and do one high? if you have the link ill check out marcus' thread so you dont have to explain it anything to help make weight is a bonus. and it makes sense since your muscles weigh so much and store so much glycogen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by armbar83
    cool so you deplete for 3 days and do one high? if you have the link ill check out marcus' thread so you dont have to explain it anything to help make weight is a bonus. and it makes sense since your muscles weigh so much and store so much glycogen...
    Ok, first of all I dont go on a "cutting diet" so to say. I am on a maintence to maintain the weight I am at. So step one find your maintence calorie needs. Secondly now I run 40% lower carbs then my maintence carbs. I will do this for 2-3 days sometimes I will go 2 low 1 high or 3 low 1 high. I find 99% of the time the 3 low one high works better for my body. Then on your 3rd or 4th day you run a high carb day 15% more then you take in for maintence carbs. Now this will one cause you to loose water weight but not dehydrate to severely. Normally I am within 5 pounds the day of the fight and this is why carb depleteting and loading works!!! I will make sure I have a high carb day the day before I weigh in, so even though I go for a morning run in a suana suit(normally drop 3 pounds) and then drift 1.5-2 pounds off through the day. So I have loads of energy cause I feel great from planning my high carb day the day before and becouse I am not sucking at massive amounts of water to make weight.

    I hope this kinda makes sense if not pm and I will put up the link to marcus's priming thread.

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