Karate how funny we know so little

[sonar1234]

I guess that most people here speak without knowing so i will shed some light on karate.

It just makes me laugh how people say karate is not effective in real life combat, yeah most of the karate is not but its all in the training.

I started karate training when i was 13 years old , i sort of go in by curiosity, it was at a local center and it was free for the first couple of classes, shotokan was the style.

I did 4 classes and headed to my first competition, there i fought against yellow and orange belt that had been practicing from 6 months to a year.

I won the gold medal, 2 point system competition.

After 3 months my sensei moved is school to another place where the location would be a lot cheaper, i had no car and had to take 3 buses to get to is new dojo.

I started looking around cause i really liked karate, even is shotokan kicks where never higher then the waiste, and we practiced forms almost all the time, barely did any push ups.

I found another karate school that really opened my eyes:

The style was Kyokushin karate, the fun was over and the real training was on, after one class i sweated like i never sweated before, i done my first bag work, shield punching and kicking, i didnt do any sparring cause i had to start at white belt once more.

3 months later i was yellow belt and there the fun began, sparring was full contact, and it hurt, we did endless series of squats, push ups, sit ups, i was 15 by then and was hard has a rock skinny but in shape.

I beleive in Kyokushin this karate is evolution, and if i can healh myself up i will go back into kyokushin i been checking out this school near my house and its even better then before, with knee strikes and jiu jitsu.

Kyokushin is not a joke, and a well training kyokushin fighter can take on anyone.

Where else do you see 100 men kumite, and have to do 30 rounds of full contact when you do your black belt exam.

[Mighty Joe]

Remember, what you learn or what you are capable of in the Karate class will only get you through a portion of the street fight! Its in the street where it really means something! The rest is mental toughness and ya can't teach that! Oh yeah, and learning the ground game will help mucho!!

Good luck with your training...

[zimmy]

lol i know what i learned from first hand experience... having some instructor try to kick me with my limited bjj knowledge at the time and not only catching his leg but puting him down... a fat white belt bjj...

love ya sonnar

[Schwarzenegger]

i heard kyokushin is dope. Normal karate doesnt appeal to me. Glaube Faitosa is apparently a kyokushin guy

[armbar83]

man your like the bastard child of this forum....wwe and karate
im going to assume your joking and just like getting a rise out of zimmy.
if your not then...

if your ever in florida, pm me and ill meet up with you and show you that your wrong

the only guys i know that trained karate and are successful at mma are the ones who did it as kids and started doing bjj, boxing, wrestling, grappling, kickboxing, ect. when they were ready to get serious....

and the only guy i know personally is seth petruzelli, if he wasnt a bjj purple belt who i think also wrestled in high school, all his karate stand up would be worthless...

good luck training.

[sonar1234]

Thanks guys i had fun writing it, armbar83 i asked the mod to create a seperate forum for pro wrestling.

I am not so lucky to go to Florida helas the place is amazing, i would enjoy first of being able to train, and train with you guys.

[sooners04]

Remember Chuck Liddell has a black belt in Hawaiian Kempo Karate under John Hackleman, who black belted under Walter Godin, who black belted under Adriano Emperado, who black belted under William Chow.

[sonar1234]

Remember Chuck Liddell has a black belt in Hawaiian Kempo Karate under John Hackleman, who black belted under Walter Godin, who black belted under Adriano Emperado, who black belted under William Chow.

Kempo got so serious striking combos.

And if someone can bang its Chuck Liddell

[armbar83]

Remember Chuck Liddell has a black belt in Hawaiian Kempo Karate under John Hackleman, who black belted under Walter Godin, who black belted under Adriano Emperado, who black belted under William Chow.

ok, honestly, how much of what chuck does is kempo? exactly...

[sooners04]

Chuck credits his striking to John Hackleman, his Kempo instructor. Chucks striking isn't too bad.

[zimmy]

says the guy with a chuck mohawk for an avatar up there

[Vinlander]

While he may credit his striking to Kempo (please post an article in which he actually says that), it's more the discipline of ANY martial art that an athlete can use to their advantage.

A person like BJ Penn is so versatile and quick to learn that he could master any technique thrown at him in a minimal amount of time. Not only is his jiu jitsu top-notch, but his striking is much improved and will continue to do so as a result of a good foundation in discipline and regimentation.

Kempo as a whole is probably an inferior fighting style to many others, but as a base, one could use practically ANYTHING that teaches maturity, discipline and perseverance. That's why American Collegate Wrestling is so popular amongst modern MMA athletes; BJJ just doesn't have anything comparable in its intensity as a base.

[zimmy]

lol? You seroius man? Have you actually trained bjj? Just curious cus I doubt there are any people who train it who would think it isn't intense.

[armbar83]

zimmy i love you man but im with him. when we wrestle its just a different world intensity wise...

try this next session,

roll for 3 3 minute rounds and then do wrestling takedowns for 3 3 minute rounds

they are both intense, bjj is just more flow and wrestling is more explosive and powerful.

the ultimate would have to be american wrestling with a gi

[Vinlander]

lol? You seroius man? Have you actually trained bjj? Just curious cus I doubt there are any people who train it who would think it isn't intense.

Point me in the direction of a BJJ dojo that trains like we did in high school and at the club level.

30 minutes of running, 10 minutes of stretching, 30 minutes of shot/takedown drills, 1 hour moveset, 30 minutes free wrestling, 30 minutes of challenges for spots on the team for the next week

All done in 112 degree heat with the doors closed and multiple layers of sweats to keep yourself at the lowest level of water retention possible and six days/week. Saturday starts bright and early, 7 am.

Tournaments were even better. Arrive at 4:30am, get to the tournament by 6:30 which normally starts at 8 after weigh-ins. You wrestle about five matches over a 12-hour period and the tournament ends roughly at 8-10pm at night.

[Mogamedogz]

What ever happened to the Guardian Angels? I bet this dude knows Karate, and could kick some SERIOUS ASS!!!

[zimmy]

Point me in the direction of a BJJ dojo that trains like we did in high school and at the club level.

30 minutes of running, 10 minutes of stretching, 30 minutes of shot/takedown drills, 1 hour moveset, 30 minutes free wrestling, 30 minutes of challenges for spots on the team for the next week

All done in 112 degree heat with the doors closed and multiple layers of sweats to keep yourself at the lowest level of water retention possible and six days/week. Saturday starts bright and early, 7 am.

Tournaments were even better. Arrive at 4:30am, get to the tournament by 6:30 which normally starts at 8 after weigh-ins. You wrestle about five matches over a 12-hour period and the tournament ends roughly at 8-10pm at night.

i spose if that's what you did then i agree...then again... in high school and younger that works...woudln't want to do that kind of training too often past 20...body breaks down too often for that :P I stand corrected :P


p.s. i'll still own most wrestlers :P so long as they haven't cross trained

P.p.s armbar...wish you were in H town... my stand up suuxxx... and other than yves edwards...no where to train

[sooners04]

While he may credit his striking to Kempo (please post an article in which he actually says that), it's more the discipline of ANY martial art that an athlete can use to their advantage.

www.ufc.com, under his bio.

I don't know about other BJJ schools, but the one I go to starts out with a good warm up of bear crawls, 60-70 up downs, 60-70 hip ups, teter toters, frog hops as I call them they simulate the basic armbar movement, 20 chokes from the guard without an opponent, crab walk, shrimp crawls 25 arm bars from mount, 25 keylocks, 25 keylock to armbar. Then we roll for the next hour at 4 minute intervals OR do sweeps, pass the guard, armbar from guard, triangle. armbar to triangle, etc.... Total time is 1.5 hours.

[sonar1234]

www.ufc.com, under his bio.

I don't know about other BJJ schools, but the one I go to starts out with a good warm up of bear crawls, 60-70 up downs, 60-70 hip ups, teter toters, frog hops as I call them they simulate the basic armbar movement, 20 chokes from the guard without an opponent, crab walk, shrimp crawls 25 arm bars from mount, 25 keylocks, 25 keylock to armbar. Then we roll for the next hour at 4 minute intervals OR do sweeps, pass the guard, armbar from guard, triangle. armbar to triangle, etc.... Total time is 1.5 hours.

That looks pertty good to me. Still my neightborhood has nothing interesting a part Kyokishin, no BJJ, no muay thai and no MMA