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    Showtime should be ashamed of themselves

    For not stopping that Lawler/Ninja fight WAYYY sooner. Ninja could have been killed in that lame effort to drive up their ratings.

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    LMAO @ "killed". Stop whinning. Yes, it was late but shit happens. They were giving Ninja the chance to weather the storm, regardless how bad it was.

    Obviously he didn't make it.
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    I think the ref and the commission should be responsible rather than the cable channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    LMAO @ "killed". Stop whinning. Yes, it was late but shit happens. They were giving Ninja the chance to weather the storm, regardless how bad it was.
    Obviously he didn't make it.
    "Regardless of how bad it was??" lol- Are you serious?

    The ref let the dude take like 4 or 5 BOMBS to his head after he was clearly out and defensless.

    Dont get me wrong... im all for "Fighting to the death". I'd watch it. But that's not what these guys signed up for.

    Showtime wants BRUTALITY. They need to sell this new product that they have invested so much money in.

    You know damn well the Ref AND Fighters were told what kind of a "show" the network "expected" them to put on.

    It was shameless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soo2bhuge
    I think the ref and the commission should be responsible rather than the cable channel.
    Bro... the Networks have the REAL power. The Commish/Judges/Refs/Promoters are just puppets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogamedogz
    Bro... the Networks have the REAL power. The Commish/Judges/Refs/Promoters are just puppets.

    Looks like a PRIDE type of knockout.. where they really wait for the fighter to be out cold before they stop the fight or when the fighter on the bottom goes into the "don't hit me, puss*y crouch"

    I dont think Ninja was in the Pu**y crouch, and he wasnt out cold yet either, just shaken.

    I think the ref was waiting till Ninja's hands overextended over his head, signaling he's out..

    UFC alot of times stops fights prematurely.. I understand the annoying reason why.. but.. it is an annoyance. as many things in UFC are.
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    They sign waivers before they enter the ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogamedogz
    Bro... the Networks have the REAL power. The Commish/Judges/Refs/Promoters are just puppets.
    I believe Mario Yamasaki was the ref and he's sanctioned by the California and Nevada Commissions. I don't think with all the recent steroid drama and all the other crap that he or the commission or EliteXC would agree to something like that. I agree that the ref should have probably jumped in a bit earlier but it's baseless to say the network wanted this.

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    dont wanna sound cheap... if i had access to showtime i wouldve definitely bought the ppv... but ruthless is my favorite fighter and ive been dying to check it out... any idea where i can find it online??

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    Yeah, he probably stopped it a little late...

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    I've seen much more brutal finishes. The ref was just giving him a chance to work out of it. He was still halfway defending himself and he was in no way close to unconsciousness

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    thanks a lot dude

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    I didn't think it was THAT late.

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    come on it wasnt like he was out cold I've seen them let the fights go a lot farther but Robby looked good heavy hands

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    Murilo Ninja never really impressed me as much as his little bro, Shogun. In this fight, though, he didn't look as good as he used to...

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    rob looked great and i dont think it was that late at all.

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    Ninja is pretty good, but Shogun is definatly more impressive.

    A lot of the chute boxers are just not doing that well in the cage though. I don't know what to expect out of Shogun in UFC 76.

    All the best strikers in Pride are loosing in UFC. Wandi already had lost to Tito, Cro Crop lost his last 2 and Ninja looses to Lawler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    Murilo Ninja never really impressed me as much as his little bro, Shogun. In this fight, though, he didn't look as good as he used to...

    You would have to have followed "Ninja" from when he started to appreciate his skill etc.

    He has been ****ed out of a few decisions and his record should be better than it looks.

    He dominated Henderson, Hendo being the decision queen got another gift decision. Rampage felt he got beat and even tried to give his trophy to Ninja.

    He also was in some matches he had no ****ing business being in, particularly the Kharitonov fight in the HW Grand Prix 2004.

    I think there are some problems at Chute Boxe, Ninja's clinch and Tai skills are nowhere to be seen unlike in the past. Same with Shogun and Wanderlei. I'm seeing more of a Jiu-Jitsu influence in their games lately than strong standup and Tai skills. Wanderlei did not throw one ****ing kick in the CroCop fight, absolutely horrible gameplan. His fight with Hendo, I'll cut him some slack, he was all ****ed up being sick.

    Wanderlei left and I would put money on it that is why, there is some shit going on and training is not what it use to be. Don't be suprised to see Ninja & Shogun leaving soon.

    Let's just hope Shogun can keep focused and come in at 100% this Saturday, or he will also taste defeat. He leaves for the US on Wednesday.

    Something else that is interesting about Ninja, his cardio is shit compared to what it was at 205lbs where I feel he fights best. I'm wondering if that cut to 185 is killing him or what? He told me its easy now, but I don't know. Something is off.
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