Time for the UFC to introduce a Super Heavy weight Division?

[skinnypunk]

I think its time for Dana to make a division for the BIG boys. The possibility of giving up 40-50 pounds on fight night is just nuts! What do you guys think?

[Dont wanna be old]

Are you talking 250 plus ? The weight separation in lighter glasses only would make it fair lb /lb for giants .
I saw Bob Saps get submitted by Japanese guy 100lbs lighter .
I guess the big guys themselves would have to answer this .
I'm no mma fighter , but looking down the fist of a guy 50 to 100lbs heavier , I hope I can out maneuver or move faster with out getting winded .

[skinnypunk]

Yeah, I was thinking about making Super Heavy's being 250+ or something like that. That would make the Heavyweight division 205-250. Watching Randy fight Lesnar last year really made me think about this. Randy was somewhere around 220 if I remember right, and I know Lesnar had to cut to get down to 265. Fight night he was probably 275-280 (if not more). That is a HUGE difference in my opinion. Being bigger doesn't mean that you will win, but it does give a great advantage. There are more than enough big heavyweights these days to make a new division.

[MuscleScience]

The UFC cant even put together a strong heavy weight division. No way could they put together a decent super heavy division.

[Hunter]

Personally, I like have less weight classes. It allows for better match ups becouse fighters cant bump up 5-10 pounds and dodge up and coming fighters by saying "looking for bigger and better challanges". Also it makes champions defend there belts more often.

As much as I hate dana white by ruling with an iron fist and keeping most of the top fighters in his org it allows for much better fights had lyoto and rashad been in boxing they would have jawed each other for 3-5 years before the fight ever happened. Its a shitty thing for fighters but a great thing for fans.

[meathead320]

Well, I don’t blame Dana White for making good buissness decisions.

I am for the idea of a super-heavyweight class, 250 and up. So long as there are enough guys to compete in it.

If you got only 7 dudes one earth willing to compete in it, then someone could say “hey I’m 7th in the world” just for showing up to lose with a 0-7-0 record. The # 1 guy would be in doubt all the time because everyone would ask if he could take a faster opponent who is almost as strong as he is.

If there is a decent enough crop of them sure.

The reason I am for weight classes in general is for several reasons, most of which is physics and biology. 150 pounds vs. 250 pounds, the 250 pounder may as well be standing still to get K’Od, but the 150 pounder risks serious injury as well if the big guy puts his weight down hard enough on the mat or dropping one good bomb.

The other reason is different sizes take longer to heal. Someone 250 take longer to heal than someone 150. There is just more meat on the body that has to recover.

If the 250 pound guy was to fight as often, he may start to lose more often, only because he is no longer on his “best day” come fight time, while the other guy is on his best day sooner.

I like to see both guys be at their best.

If you took Brock Lesnar, kept him awake for 4 days, then had him run 3 miles, lift weights hard core for a good 2 hours, then had him drink a 12 pack of Sam Adams, and 2 X-large pizzas, and then tossed him in the cage to fight someone fresh and ready, I think the fight would not be that entertaining. Well, maybe the 3 seconds it lasts.

I like to see both guys at their best, and bigger guys do take longer to heal.

[skinnypunk]

I think there would be plenty of big guys to do it: Gabriel Gonzaga, Antoni hardonk, Heath Herring, Cheick Kongo, Brock Lesnar, Frank Mir, Tim Silvia, Cain Velasquez, Nog could easily carry 250.

[Brown Ninja]

None of those guys are near 250, except a fat Mir, GG is right at that point but should lighten up, Sylvia should quit, and Brock is undoubtedly enormous. Cain is undersized as well as Nog. Kongo is to light for 265 as well

[skinnypunk]

Yes, most are too small for 265+, but I was talking about making the Heavyweight division 205-250 and above 250 would be superheavyweight. I understand that there are probably more reasons to keep things the way that they are than to change to something like this. I was just thinking about it and wanted to hear some other opinions. With MMA getting more and more popular, we have and will continue to see the introduction of more weight classes. In my opinion, 205-265 is a HUGE weight range for one division. It may not happen often, but if you get two guys on each extreme of weights in the the division, the smaller guy would be at a very big disadvantage. In my mind, there are definitely a handful of guys (like the ones that I listed) who are obviously bigger than some of the other Heavyweights.

[xnotoriousx]

The UFC cant even put together a strong heavy weight division. No way could they put together a decent super heavy division.

amen to that

until dana gets his head out of his ass and gives fedor what he wants, the hw will be a joke, and a bad one at that.

[Dog-Slime]

I think there would be plenty of big guys to do it: Gabriel Gonzaga, Antoni hardonk, Heath Herring, Cheick Kongo, Brock Lesnar, Frank Mir, Tim Silvia, Cain Velasquez, Nog could easily carry 250.

Pretty sure brock is the only one mentioned that would fight in the "super heavy" division. You say they COULD carry 250 but why would they? Would they just fatten up to enter this new ridiculous division? I think not and I think if any of them were even close to 250 (which like i said most the ones you named are a good 10+lbs from 250) then they would just cut to not be in the super heavy. If the lighter heavyweights are scared to face a beast like brock then they should cut to 205. Making a new lesnar only division is retarded IMO and it will not happen.

[skinnypunk]

I get all that,and agree with most of what you said. I honestly don't think there will be a Super Heavyweight division any time soon, nor do I think there needs to be. I was just posing a question and wanting to hear some opinions.Do you think that 60 pounds is an ideal range? What if some of the other weight classes had a 60 pound range? I was just trying to imagine how it would feel to stare across the ring at a guy who is potentially 60 pounds bigger than me. There used to be a lot of complaints in boxing about Arturo Gatti and others cutting so much weight that it was unfair and dangerous to other fighters.

[Tjohn6231]

I think the UFC is having a hard time keeping all of the talent fighting already. There are so many great fighters. Many of the 225 lb heavyweights could easily move down to 205, and become the big guy in that weight class.

[Dog-Slime]

I get all that,and agree with most of what you said. I honestly don't think there will be a Super Heavyweight division any time soon, nor do I think there needs to be. I was just posing a question and wanting to hear some opinions.Do you think that 60 pounds is an ideal range? What if some of the other weight classes had a 60 pound range? I was just trying to imagine how it would feel to stare across the ring at a guy who is potentially 60 pounds bigger than me. There used to be a lot of complaints in boxing about Arturo Gatti and others cutting so much weight that it was unfair and dangerous to other fighters.

Bro have you not seen the early ufc days? There were NO weight classes...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC8TJT3-4Hk

[skinnypunk]

Yeah, I have seen them all.