Fedor signs with Strikeforce

[southmadejd]

It's official guys. I don't really know how I feel about this considering they have one heavyweight that I believe is worthy of fighting Fedor and that is Overeem, even though they are trying to hype Brett Rogers, I am still not sold on him.

http://sherdog.com/news/news/fedor-s...ikeforce-18883

p.s. BG is there a way to block this thread from Icepick so we can at least get valid opinions on this. Instead of someone just coming in here and calling Fedor a slob, and saying he is scared and doesn't give a shit about the fans. Thanks.

[Hunter]

Rogers will get handled and so will overeem he just doesnt have the chin or ground work to compete with Fedor. Although he(overeem) has looked good as a heavyweight. The Werdum fight interests me alot but I am disappointed he didnt sign with the ufc.

[southmadejd]

I know man. I really did want to see him fight against the best. I don't think the details are out yet about the contract but their are rumors that it is a 3 fight deal. It will be cool to see Fedor on Showtime and not PPV but I still wanted to see him in the UFC. I am not sure how Strikeforce is going to make it work but I think Scott Coker is a smart man but Fedor doesn't get enough revenue in the states. That is why Affliction couldn't stay above ground. Apparently their PPV numbers weren't near high enough.

[Hunter]

I know man. I really did want to see him fight against the best. I don't think the details are out yet about the contract but their are rumors that it is a 3 fight deal. It will be cool to see Fedor on Showtime and not PPV but I still wanted to see him in the UFC. I am not sure how Strikeforce is going to make it work but I think Scott Coker is a smart man but Fedor doesn't get enough revenue in the states. That is why Affliction couldn't stay above ground. Apparently their PPV numbers weren't near high enough.

That and they payed fighters alot of money. Basic economics gotta take in more then you payout.

[icepick27]

iam dissapointed i wanted him to go to the ufc also i wanted all this fedor is the best ,or not the best crap to stop ,he has about 3 opponets out there worth fighting , this blows although it is going to be better then watching affliction once every 12 months , at least we can see fedor fight

[quarry206]

i won't lie, i'm pissed about it... i wanted fedor in the UFC... I mean i realize why he is doing it. but still i wanted him to fight UFC

according to fedor UFC was only wanting a 3 fight deal for less than a million a fight, and he gets 2million a fight else were... he also legally couldn't sign a deal with the UFC unless they agreed to co-promotions, he still is on contract with M-1 for three more fights..

[Brown Ninja]

He can fight Overeem and Werdum 4 x's a piece

[EndlessDreams]

Sucks would have been real nice to see him in the UFC but it seems hes looking out what is best for him and his future cause now they will co-promote with M-1 Global which is part-owned by Emelianenko.

[yannick35]

I had a feeling he would sign with strikeforce. For once i agree with what Dana White said: Fedor is a F**King joke he said, he turned down a huge deal and the opportunity to fight the best in the world to go fight nobodies.

In strikeforce he will fight Brett Rogers, Overeem and Werdum, big deal.

[illwillogical]

****ing UFC, didn't Brock make like 3 mil in the Mir fight? They only offer Fedor under a mil that's retarded!

[southmadejd]

i won't lie, i'm pissed about it... i wanted fedor in the UFC... I mean i realize why he is doing it. but still i wanted him to fight UFC

according to fedor UFC was only wanting a 3 fight deal for less than a million a fight, and he gets 2million a fight else were... he also legally couldn't sign a deal with the UFC unless they agreed to co-promotions, he still is on contract with M-1 for three more fights..

Source????

[southmadejd]

I had a feeling he would sign with strikeforce. For once i agree with what Dana White said: Fedor is a F**King joke he said, he turned down a huge deal and the opportunity to fight the best in the world to go fight nobodies.

In strikeforce he will fight Brett Rogers, Overeem and Werdum, big deal.

Well I mean technically Overeem, Werdum, and Rogers aren't nobodies. Rogers and OVereem are in the top 10 rankings on numerous sites, but I get your point.

[EndlessDreams]

yeah im not sure he was going to be under paid at all cause on SherDog Dana White was not to happy about it...

"Fedor is a f---ing joke," UFC President Dana White responded Monday after learning that Emelianenko had signed with Strikeforce. “He turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies for no money!"

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/upd...responds-18883

Here is a little more on it..

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=9281&zoneid=2

[quarry206]

Si article
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1

M-1 side about the co-promotions and money....
http://www.m-1global.com/lang/en/200...ives-from-m-1/

the sources i read... and like i said in my post, its according to fedor's side of the story

[EndlessDreams]

The whole reason it didnt get done was cause of the fact they must also negotiate with M-1 nothing more nothing less. Dana White and the UFC dont wanna co-promote with M-1 they have no reason to.

[rockinred]

Well let's see if whoever Fedor is listening to pays off. He is holding out on the UFC for whatever reason and that can prove to be a good thing or a bad thing for him in the long run. If he signs with these other orgs and ends up getting beat by a not so big name, he can really hurt his career. Right now he is currently on top and ready to demand the best. If he beats everyone in the smaller orgs, then the stakes go up and the pay gets higher if he goes to the UFC later. Risky business, let's see if they advised him right. The future tells, but I do know that no one will go undefeated forever.

I don't care too much for Dana White either, but the bottom line is UFC is the best out there for now. So whether he hates Dana or not, he eventually needs to top his name off by beating the UFC champs. Until then, he will never be considered the best. I am with him too and ready for a new player to come on the scene besides UFC, but as it is now, it is the way it is. I would be playing for the best if it was me.

[BgMc31]

^^^Great post, brotha!!!!

[EndlessDreams]

Well let's see if whoever Fedor is listening to pays off. He is holding out on the UFC for whatever reason and that can prove to be a good thing or a bad thing for him in the long run. If he signs with these other orgs and ends up getting beat by a not so big name, he can really hurt his career. Right now he is currently on top and ready to demand the best. If he beats everyone in the smaller orgs, then the stakes go up and the pay gets higher if he goes to the UFC later. Risky business, let's see if they advised him right. The future tells, but I do know that no one will go undefeated forever.

I don't care too much for Dana White either, but the bottom line is UFC is the best out there for now. So whether he hates Dana or not, he eventually needs to top his name off by beating the UFC champs. Until then, he will never be considered the best. I am with him too and ready for a new player to come on the scene besides UFC, but as it is now, it is the way it is. I would be playing for the best if it was me.

Nice post.. He could end up like Kimbo and everyone knows how that played out... Or he could end up paid in the end if he beats everyone.

Not to get off topic but its funny to see Kimbo coming to UFC after what Dana said about him the whole time..

[BG]

p.s. BG is there a way to block this thread from Icepick so we can at least get valid opinions on this. Instead of someone just coming in here and calling Fedor a slob, and saying he is scared and doesn't give a shit about the fans. Thanks.

lmao . unfortunatly no or DSM wouldnt be able to post at all.


Man Im actually shocked to hear this, I cant believe Fedors all about money and not being a fighter, I mean they had to have made him a healthy offer (UFC).

[BG]

Well let's see if whoever Fedor is listening to pays off. He is holding out on the UFC for whatever reason and that can prove to be a good thing or a bad thing for him in the long run. If he signs with these other orgs and ends up getting beat by a not so big name, he can really hurt his career. Right now he is currently on top and ready to demand the best. If he beats everyone in the smaller orgs, then the stakes go up and the pay gets higher if he goes to the UFC later. Risky business, let's see if they advised him right. The future tells, but I do know that no one will go undefeated forever.

I don't care too much for Dana White either, but the bottom line is UFC is the best out there for now. So whether he hates Dana or not, he eventually needs to top his name off by beating the UFC champs. Until then, he will never be considered the best. I am with him too and ready for a new player to come on the scene besides UFC, but as it is now, it is the way it is. I would be playing for the best if it was me.

Plus he's getting older and Brock will just be getting better. All though Fedor hasnt fought that much lately, these 3 fights if schedule close together could be Prep for the UFC?? I dont know??

[quarry206]

not to sound like i'm bull headed.. and only defending Fedor, because for the record i'm just totally pissed he isn't signing with the UFC...

but in the long run Fedor is trying to do what he feels is best for his career outside of MMA with M-1 striking a deal with Russia to promote Sambo, and to get TV rights for that. Fedor has to be loyal to a company that might be a major player soon in his home country, and also that he has a stake in...

but for the record as a fan of MMA and a fan of Fedor, i'm pissed that i'm not going to see him fight the best in america. and maybe clear up all the BS about who the best HW is without a doubt..

[redz]

Fedor just didnt wantg to get his ass handed to him by Brock. He just took the easy route instead.

[illwillogical]

Again why would Brock Lesnar get 3M for his fight with Mir, and they offer Fedor under a mil? Fedor has every right to be insulted, he's a Russian, he don't care what UFC is, if he get's more money elsewhere, he's never going to come to UFC.

[redz]

He would get more in his next fight if he beat Lesnar......Not that it would happen. Ah well they will probably never fight now.

[BG]

Fedor just didnt wantg to get his ass handed to him by Brock. He just took the easy route instead.

Re watch the Mir fight, Brock didnt know what to do when he was being hit. If Mir didnt pull the AA and made some space and kept striking he might have taken it. Fedor would put Brock away if he covered up like that.

[illwillogical]

P.S. Lesnar has fought 5 fights. Lets see if his record is anything close to Fedor's in 5 years! I'm tired of the hype, I can't wait till Lesnar gets his ass beat, and Fedor isn't going to be the one to do it because they are never going to strike up a good enough offer for him to go to the UFC.

[BTBAM]

its a sad sad day, i really dont see any good fight that i would be interested in that strikeforce will offer him.

[icepick27]

iam tired of this fedor shit **** him the ufc dont need him anyway ,it would of been great to see him fight lesanr or some ufc heavys ,but the bottom line is he coould of got payed a tone of money and have a chance to test him self and prove his leagacy.. he choosed not to .. cause he dont care about the american fanbase IMO he had less of a chance of loosing ove in strike force so he to the bitch way out

[illwillogical]

iam tired of this fedor shit **** him the ufc dont need him anyway ,it would of been great to see him fight lesanr or some ufc heavys ,but the bottom line is he coould of got payed a tone of money and have a chance to test him self and prove his leagacy.. he choosed not to .. cause he dont care about the american fanbase IMO he had less of a chance of loosing ove in strike force so he to the bitch way out

And everyone knows your opinion holds a lot of weight around here LOL!

[quarry206]

icepick.. one thing i think u fail to realize, something alot of anti-fedor pro-brock people fail to realize. the one thing that makes lesner great against people is he is so strong and big.. he is a great athlete i'll admitt...

Fedor has always done amazing against big strong guys because he loves them to be on top and think they can throw big punches... watch Fedors tapes, he is the king of catching arms and legs.. he catches more people on his back and arm bars them then anybody else...

Fedor has a weakness, and will be beat... but lesner is a gaint strong guy. and that is what fedor has proven to do best against.. and that is why everybody wants to see them fight, because what lesner does best, fedor loves to fight against the most.

when it comes down to it we the fans lost out because two companies had differences. . . Fedor is on contract with M-1 its not like he can say **** off, and also since he owns a stake in them and their future in Russia. he has to go along with them.. point blank the fans lost out.. end up story and it sucks

[organized_konfusion]

hopefully fedor will just clean house in strikeforce, then when his m-1 crap is up, he can mosey on down with the "big boys" and take some real fights

[southmadejd]

Si article
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1

M-1 side about the co-promotions and money....
http://www.m-1global.com/lang/en/200...ives-from-m-1/

the sources i read... and like i said in my post, its according to fedor's side of the story

thanks man. I wasn't trying to call you out or anything like that, just wanted to read it for myself.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Fedor is scared.


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[J-Dogg]

I think it's an awful thing for MMA, and Fedor AND the UFC.

As it is, they can't come to terms. Fedor can make money in the UFC, and it's a secure contract. The UFC is not going to fold any time soon, and have to sell the contract, or void it like Affliction did, and put him in this position. If he performs, he'll be fighting as many times as he wants for good money. So it's not an issue of SECURE money.

Fedor has a record of what? 30 and 1?

NO matter how good you are, eventually.....another guy gets lucky.

I could play horse with Micheal Jordan 1000 times, I could probably beat him with just my luck or his bad luck one time.

In MMA it's even worse, a lucky hay maker and there goes your perfect records and legacy.

Now, if Brock throws that lucky hay maker, Fedor just passes the torch to the NEW breed of MMA fighters. Emphasis on the new LARGE breed of heavy weights.

If he looses to anyone in Strikeforce, it looks MUCH worse.

And Fedor already used up his "GET OUT OF JAIL FREE" card when he stole the decision from Ricardo Arona after getting dominated 80% of the fight. If he gets 2 of those, I write his MMA career up as luck!

[Brown Ninja]

I could clean house in Strikeforce

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

Fedor is making more money in the fights he's about to have and he'll get more and more exposure and it's genius because he's just creating greater and greater demand for Dana to sign him and the longer he waits the more it's gonna cost. I have as much faith in Fedor as him promoters do any anybody in the fight game for the long haul knows you have a limited window, he knows this himself, and you need to make enough to support yourself and take care of you're loved ones so you need to be a good business man as well as a fighter to have a real retirement. I don't see this as being selfish, we'll get to see him fight, and he'll stuff these people away and without it being PPV millions of new people will become fans and want him to fight in UFC. Honestly I'm hoping they have someone much more skilled (not bigger or more athletic mind you) but honestly more SKILLED to fight him in a year when this short contract is over and done with. I don't see Fedor loosing but I believe it's possible and I think he'll retire a decade from now with triple digit wins and single digit losses and leave a legacy for many to appreciate. Be patient it will come to pass. He'll never be tired, he'll never stop, hit him with everything you've got and he'll find a way to take it and keep on coming, ask Randleman, he really is the Cyborg. I appreciate his composure and grace in and out of the ring and that's what really makes me respect him more than his impressive, honestly flawless, record. I love fighting and anyone that appreciates the sport to the level I do knows it's about a lot more than how big and strong you are, it's like anything, you bring everything you've got, and whatever you're not bringing in muslce or athleticism you must overcome with technique and heart, and it's going to be a long time before any of the current HV to get to the combined level that Fedor is. Just so everyone isn't blind to the obvious, Lesnar IS a freak of nature built by a life time of drugs and he's a phenomenal athlete, but his fighting game is juvenile in nature and as of right now, his biggest weakness, although his overwhelming emotions seem like they might be another downfall. Some day we'll have somebody with that size and athleticism with Fedor's skill level, but for now, Fedor is the most well rounded HW in existence and I believe the best pound for pound fighter in the world. I've weighed everything as accurately as I can from my perspective and I just find no other verdict.

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

PS: Stikeforce just got a new viewer. I bet some genius in their marketing division figured that out a little while ago when they got the chance to sign Fedor and highly recommended it, lol.

[Tarheel]

so will we be able to see fedors fights on cable or pay per view/

[J-Dogg]

Fedor is making more money in the fights he's about to have and he'll get more and more exposure and it's genius because he's just creating greater and greater demand for Dana to sign him and the longer he waits the more it's gonna cost. I have as much faith in Fedor as him promoters do any anybody in the fight game for the long haul knows you have a limited window, he knows this himself, and you need to make enough to support yourself and take care of you're loved ones so you need to be a good business man as well as a fighter to have a real retirement. I don't see this as being selfish, we'll get to see him fight, and he'll stuff these people away and without it being PPV millions of new people will become fans and want him to fight in UFC. Honestly I'm hoping they have someone much more skilled (not bigger or more athletic mind you) but honestly more SKILLED to fight him in a year when this short contract is over and done with. I don't see Fedor loosing but I believe it's possible and I think he'll retire a decade from now with triple digit wins and single digit losses and leave a legacy for many to appreciate. Be patient it will come to pass. He'll never be tired, he'll never stop, hit him with everything you've got and he'll find a way to take it and keep on coming, ask Randleman, he really is the Cyborg. I appreciate his composure and grace in and out of the ring and that's what really makes me respect him more than his impressive, honestly flawless, record. I love fighting and anyone that appreciates the sport to the level I do knows it's about a lot more than how big and strong you are, it's like anything, you bring everything you've got, and whatever you're not bringing in muslce or athleticism you must overcome with technique and heart, and it's going to be a long time before any of the current HV to get to the combined level that Fedor is. Just so everyone isn't blind to the obvious, Lesnar IS a freak of nature built by a life time of drugs and he's a phenomenal athlete, but his fighting game is juvenile in nature and as of right now, his biggest weakness, although his overwhelming emotions seem like they might be another downfall. Some day we'll have somebody with that size and athleticism with Fedor's skill level, but for now, Fedor is the most well rounded HW in existence and I believe the best pound for pound fighter in the world. I've weighed everything as accurately as I can from my perspective and I just find no other verdict.

If he looses to one of those chumps off a lucky hay maker in strike force, his million dollar UFC contract just went down the tubes.

Every day, Fedor gets older, every day, he becomes in less demand.

The UFC is doing fine, and Dana is a hard nosed business man. He won't throw millions at him.

[icepick27]

100%NATURAL-theGH ......... did you really just write that .. get your head out of your ass it was a big risk fedor took going to strike force, just like jdog siad all as it takes is one clean shot and he is done .. unfortinlitly there is not no reall good compitition in strike force and he can dominate over there, but still this is MMA any one can loose to anyone any giving night .. and i hope brett rodgers kos him
Dana white did the right move .... he really dont need him a averge UFC fight night does better in numbers then any fedor fight