Brock lesnar vs shane carwin...wow

**icepick27** · 09-28-2009, 01:23 PM

I cant wait for this one iam interested on how brock is gioing to deal with some one who is just as big as him , wrestling and grappling definlitly goes to brock without a doubt ,but the stand up i think goes to carwin ,carwin puts togeher nice combo and has good foot work ,where brock still looks a little stiff still in the stand up,both have crazy power , cardio edge brock ,speed also goes to brock to ,i cant friggin wait for this fight ...........what do you guys think ???

**Brown Ninja** · 09-28-2009, 01:41 PM

I think Brock takes it but it should be very interesting.

**icepick27** · 09-29-2009, 06:40 AM

Mee to Unless he getts hit with one of those bombs

**ectomorph28** · 09-29-2009, 10:39 AM

Brock wins. Everything Carwin does well (wrestling) Brock does it better and hes beaten better opponents.

Both guys are terrible on their feet.

**gunslinger2** · 09-29-2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by ectomorph28

Brock wins. Everything Carwin does well (wrestling) Brock does it better and hes beaten better opponents.

Both guys are terrible on their feet.

Agreed 100%

**icepick27** · 09-29-2009, 12:24 PM

listen i know they aint pro boxers .. but i was just saying that i think carwin has a little more of a edge in the stand up then lesnar ....and it dont matter if his stand up is terrible or not he still puts guys the frigg away with one shot

**Biohazard74** · 09-29-2009, 01:57 PM

Brock is a better all around fighter & i think he will win. But i also would not be suprised at an upset. As we saw with Gonzaga those hands dont have to travel long or fast to turn out anyones lights. No matter what happens i dont think it will go past round 1.

**redz** · 09-29-2009, 02:03 PM

Brock will take his ass down and pound him out for the TKO.

**MIKE_XXL** · 09-29-2009, 06:37 PM

Carwin by KO in 37 sec. and Brock crying like a bitch he is :-)

**Brown Ninja** · 09-29-2009, 09:51 PM

^^^Really or is that cause you hate Lesnar?

**gunslinger2** · 09-29-2009, 11:29 PM

I see a lot of Lesnar haters on here.

**BRILL** · 09-30-2009, 12:11 AM

Will be a quick win for Lesnar I think....

***t-gunz*** · 09-30-2009, 05:13 AM

did they give a date?

**redz** · 09-30-2009, 09:52 AM

UFC 106 November 21st at the Mandalay Bay Events Centre Navada.

**Hunter** · 10-01-2009, 12:51 PM

Brock is going to derail the hype train that is carwin.

**southmadejd** · 10-01-2009, 11:33 PM

^^I agree MN Fighter. Personally I think Brock has already traded with Couture and looked pretty good and Couture has way better boxing IMO than Gonzaga. And lets not forget that Gonzaga had Carwin seeing stars until he got caught with that powerful short right. Personally I think Gonzaga showed that Carwin doesn't have a great chin and Lesnar wins this by knockout.

**WARMachine** · 10-02-2009, 01:48 AM

First to land the big shot wins.

It will be interesting to see how Brock takes a shot from such a heavy puncher.

**stang** · 10-17-2009, 05:53 PM

Couture not even close to the same as Gonzaga on the stand up.. Gonzaga is way better on his feet.. Have you ever seen randy kick anyone in the head?? His kicks suck and his hand speed is slow.. Carwin is same size as brock just as good on the ground check his wrestling back ground out.. hit so hard can take a good punch carwin wins i think.. who has brock beat? Randy who is a small guy that makes 205 easy.. he is 1-1 with mirr. i think carwin will land a big right and the fight is over just my pick i could be wrong

**J-Dogg** · 10-17-2009, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by stang

Couture not even close to the same as Gonzaga on the stand up.. Gonzaga is way better on his feet.. Have you ever seen randy kick anyone in the head?? His kicks suck and his hand speed is slow.. Carwin is same size as brock just as good on the ground check his wrestling back ground out.. hit so hard can take a good punch carwin wins i think.. who has brock beat? Randy who is a small guy that makes 205 easy.. he is 1-1 with mirr. i think carwin will land a big right and the fight is over just my pick i could be wrong

If I recall correctly, Carwin is like a D3 wrestler? Or maybe D2?

Brock is a D1, and the difference between a D1 and D2 wrestler is like High School football compared to the NFL.

Gonzaga has more powerful strikes than Randy, and more tools on his feet that's for sure. But he also leaves himself very open, and we've seen him do this a lot.

Gonzaga honestly was tooling Carwin. Carwin beat Napa by a "punchers chance". Napa beats Carwin 8 of 10 fights.

**MIKE_XXL** · 10-18-2009, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Brown Ninja

^^^Really or is that cause you hate Lesnar?

A little bit of both, i think to beat lesnar someone has to clip him early and then just ground and pound him i do not think he tolarates being punched in the head well...either that og great BBJ...i really think Crawin has a chance here...

**rich1261** · 10-18-2009, 08:39 AM

finally time to see brock get his chin tested im sayin carwin will ko him fairly quickly

**ectomorph28** · 10-18-2009, 10:16 AM

If Dana thought Carwin had a good chance of beating Lesnar he wouldnt have set up this fight.

**Mighty Joe** · 10-18-2009, 10:27 AM

Lesnar is gonna try to get this guy on his back quickly! The guy who can keep Lesnar on his feet the longest has the best chance to beat him. Lesnar has terrible hands, so he tries to tackle everybody who stands in front of him. Thats why a guy as big as him has a nice chance in my opinion.

**gunslinger2** · 10-18-2009, 12:29 PM

Why do I keep hearing about shane carwin being as big as Brock? Carwin is 6'4'' 259. Lesnar hits the mat at about 290-295. The only thing Carwin has is a punchers chance.

**J-Dogg** · 10-18-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by gunslinger2

Why do I keep hearing about shane carwin being as big as Brock? Carwin is 6'4'' 259. Lesnar hits the mat at about 290-295. The only thing Carwin has is a punchers chance.

Going to agree.

I realize a lot of you don't like Brock, I'm not a fan of his either. Carwin will not beat him though. Carwin was very lucky to beat Napa.

Napa would have a MUCH MUCH better chance of beating Brock. Napa is the same size as Carwin, and Napa is more powerful than Carwin is. His strikes are way more devastating, come from different angles and his kicks/leg kicks are as hard as anyone's in the HW class.

On the ground, Brock is a better wrestler, but Gonzaga is a BJJ black belt and that would cancel out Brocks wrestling more than Carwin's wrestling would.

Just because Carwin is only 40lbs smaller, instead of 80lbs smaller than Brock, does not mean Carwin has a chance of beating him.

**stang** · 10-18-2009, 07:34 PM

I don't care if carwin is d-2 wrestling or not he was a 2x champ and this is not who pins who first.. It's who lands first.. All carwin has two do is keep it on his feet and he will get the win

**gunslinger2** · 10-18-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by stang

I don't care if carwin is d-2 wrestling or not he was a 2x champ and this is not who pins who first.. It's who lands first.. All carwin has two do is keep it on his feet and he will get the win

Hard to knock someone out when you are laying flat on your back.

**stang** · 10-18-2009, 10:47 PM

guess we will see soon.. my money would be on carwin.. brock has no stand up and carwin can keep it on the feet fight is over in first 4 min

**J-Dogg** · 10-19-2009, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by stang

guess we will see soon.. my money would be on carwin.. brock has no stand up and carwin can keep it on the feet fight is over in first 4 min

Put money on Carwin then, it's like +400 odds if you bet on him on most sites.

**stang** · 10-19-2009, 12:21 PM

i'm putting money on him

**Monster87** · 10-19-2009, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

Put money on Carwin then, it's like +400 odds if you bet on him on most sites.

http://sports.bodog.com/sports-betti...rtial-arts.jsp

+240 here. still pretty generous. which sites are offering +400?

**stang** · 10-19-2009, 08:26 PM

i see i wish i found a site +400

**Brown Ninja** · 10-20-2009, 01:01 PM

Lesnar might not pay out great but the safe bet is the smart bet........

**Brown Ninja** · 10-20-2009, 01:06 PM

Lesnar by shear mauling, or whatever else he chooses.

**stang** · 10-21-2009, 05:17 PM

carwin is going to do just fine

**Biohazard74** · 10-24-2009, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by stang

carwin is going to do just fine

If it stays on the feet. If it goes to the mat i believe its pretty much over with Brock the victor

**millionairemurph** · 10-26-2009, 02:09 PM

Carwin is all hype!! The keep touting him as the goliath, as this huge man. Ok, he. Thhat has very little to do with the fight. Strength can overcome some technique advantage, true. And lesner proves that. He's huge, and strong. He can not land a single clean shot and still have a man hurt (see Lesner vs Coutoure 1). Even though Lesner had poor standup in the past, he seems highly motivated. He has money and exposure that will land him any coach in the game. He will improve and is improving very fast. Carwin still works ful time from what i understand. Carwin looked bad on his feet against Napao until he clipped him.

I dont really like either fighter as they are the kinds of guys who spend more time lifting then they do fighting. Their technique is sloppy. Lesner by tko, ground and pound, round 2.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 10-26-2009, 05:40 PM

The fight will be postponed due to Brock being ill for the past 3 and a half weeks...

**higherdesire** · 10-26-2009, 06:28 PM

I got lesner even if he's sick!

**Deltasaurus** · 10-26-2009, 06:43 PM

Jan 2nd its to take place

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