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**idizzle** · 09-20-2008, 04:37 PM

Ok, So with var at 30 ED and probably raising to 40 or 50 ED for a 4-5 weeks or so, what, if any, PCT should i do?

**idizzle** · 09-20-2008, 04:37 PM

btw man thanks a lot for the advice

**Baron** · 09-20-2008, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by idizzle

Ok, So with var at 30 ED and probably raising to 40 or 50 ED for a 4-5 weeks or so, what, if any, PCT should i do?

Well, you can probably get away with doing a 6-8 week to further the benefits. Some athletes do var in lower dosages for even as long as 3 months. What phase of training are you in right now? When does you're season start? The beauty of var is alot of guys get away with doing no PCT at all, some even use it as a bridge between cycles like the other guy said earlier. I dont recommend any of this, but it is interesting. All you really need is some nolva and you should be fine imo.

**Baron** · 09-20-2008, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by idizzle

btw man thanks a lot for the advice

no problem.

**idizzle** · 09-21-2008, 01:33 AM

Season just started.

Training wise, my shoulder has stopped hurting so there is no pain at all so now im just doing the rehab to get it strong, probably going to the gym 4 times a week and then practising twice a week non-contact. Id like to get back asap..hopefully within 2-3 weeks? How much nolva should i take a day and for how long?

**WARMachine** · 09-21-2008, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by idizzle

Ok, So with var at 30 ED and probably raising to 40 or 50 ED for a 4-5 weeks or so, what, if any, PCT should i do?

Ok if youre gonna raise it to 50mg ED eventually would you mind telling me the difference at starting out at 50mg ED?

And yes you need a PCT. It all depends on how long the cycle is and what dose youre running it at.

**WARMachine** · 09-21-2008, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

no.

Test = more injuries. Test actually decreases collagen synthesis, especially in doses these guys recommend. Its jsut gonna give you more injuries. Think about it, test strengthens the muscle and weakens the connective tissue. This is NOT what you want in this situation. Maybe you can do a low dose later on when you're shoulder fully heals, but you haveto make sure you take it with something like EQ/hgh/var.

Leave the winny out too, just take the var @ 30mg ED for longer and you're endurance should be fine. Note the effects, and if you feel you can handle it do a little more in the weeks following.

I dont understand here? Youre actually saying that Winny is better than test alone?

Do you not know that winny is the WORST steroid an athlete can take?

And why not advise a Test/EQ cycle? This seems like it is the best cycle for his goals.

**CSAR** · 09-24-2008, 03:30 AM

Geezus...

Baron, your advice is all over the place. I'm with war4BTT and redz on this - you seem to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Enjoy your stay while it lasts.

**Baron** · 09-24-2008, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

I dont understand here? Youre actually saying that Winny is better than test alone?

Do you not know that winny is the WORST steroid an athlete can take?

And why not advise a Test/EQ cycle? This seems like it is the best cycle for his goals.

wat the hell are you speaking of? I said no such things.

Winny isnt the WORST steroid an athlete can take, there are worse options. But it is pretty stupid to do a winny cycle It would be horrifying to his already feeble joints. I never said winny is better than test alone, you're just a little slow but bare with me. I did advise him to pair EQ up with test if he decides to take it. Why not stop putting words in my mouth? Re-read some of the posts i've made, i'm getting tired of explaining everything to you over and over again.

Originally Posted by CSAR

Geezus...

Baron, your advice is all over the place. I'm with war4BTT and redz on this - you seem to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Enjoy your stay while it lasts.

A few sandwiches short of a picnic?

After i finished laughing i decided to actually give this a reply: you're little "post whore thread" freinds seem to be missing a few things here. Neither of them are aware of what an athlete's cycle should look like. Furthermore, arguing with them is like arguing with 7 graders. They back arguments with anecdotal evidence, now if thats now hilarious then i dont know what is. I can show you countless amounts of studies to back my advice, actual scientific studies. Something you should look more into before you get into a discussion with me.

anyone else wanna give OP some more bad advice that can potentially ruin his season?

**WARMachine** · 09-24-2008, 09:50 PM

What bad advice did i give?

Youre simply making claims that have no backing. All youre doing is expressing your opinon.

And the second you said this:

Originally Posted by Baron

Winny isnt the WORST steroid an athlete can take, there are worse options.

You lost all your credibility.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Would you care to enlighten me on what could be worse than winny for an Althlete?

Low dose cycles of Test/EQ or Primo/Test or Deca /Test cycles are the best cycles for his goals.

**Baron** · 09-25-2008, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

What bad advice did i give?

Youre simply making claims that have no backing. All youre doing is expressing your opinon.

And the second you said this:

You lost all your credibility.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Would you care to enlighten me on what could be worse than winny for an Althlete?

Low dose cycles of Test/EQ or Primo/Test or Deca/Test cycles are the best cycles for his goals.

Ok so i see the name of the game, point out completely irrelevant things. Obviously i know winny is bad for athletes, as i previously stated. So wtf is you're point? Why did you type all of this up (more like copy and paste)? Come back when you have some relevant information to bring to the table instead of nit-picking at what i've said.