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    Question College Baseball Pitcher

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    I am a pitcher for a very solid Juco baseball program. I am a freshman and 19 years old, getting ready to start preparing for next season. I will get on an intense weight program this summer and I am looking to get on a good first cycle. I plan on cycling until i get to a nice weight and have a noticeably larger frame. I know the health risks, and the risks of health issues down the line. I am looking to get on to a long cycle, preferrably 8 weeks. It is about the time now that I need to go ahead and prepare to purchase the needed supplements to get ready. So, on to my size.
    Ht. - 6'0"
    Wt.- fluctuates from 133-140.

    My fastball tops out around 84-85, consistently around 80, which isn't bad for someone as thin as me. I am looking to get on a long cycle around 8 weeks that can possibly put on 20+ pounds.
    Eating Habits-- I eat very healthy and eat a lot of food. The reason for my thin frame is all in genetics, as i have exactly followed the timeline of my dads growing habits. I eat more than the average 19 year old male, I'm sure. If you're going to reply with something like "eat more, steroidspost cycle therapy supplements also), i plan on continuing on more cycles possibly until I'm up into the 170-180 lbs. range. I know steroids are not magic, and I'm not going to magically start putting on muscle as soon as I start. Another thing to note, I would like to keep my gains. I am not new to hitting the weights, as I worked out hard last summer, putting on around 7-8 pounds of muscle, while also increasing my maxes by huge margins. I have worked out since I was 16. Also, I will be doing a cycle either way, so its best to just recommend me what would be the best and not try to sway me away from doing it. So please, I know the risks, I have no problem eating or getting protein into my body, and I just want a good long cycle to stretch through the summer.
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    ht. - 6'0"
    wt. - 135-140
    fastball - low 80s
    eating habits - eats healthy and plenty
    age - 19
    preferred cycle duration - 8 weeks (summertime)
    preferred weight gain - 20+ pounds

    Thanks

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    You won't like this answer.
    You're too young.
    You're too light.
    You can't put on 20 lbs in a cycle.

    Replace the peanut butter with real food. High protein. Replace the jelly with slow digesting carbs. Without knowing more id say you need about 3500-4000 calories a day to grow. I'm 6' and 3000 is maintenance.
    In 8 weeks with a solid diet and training regimen at your age you should be able to gain 5-8 lbs.

    Steroids are not a replacement for poor diet and strength training

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    And before you say you do eat enough, post up everything you ate yesterday including serving sizes

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    Hawk is correct if you eat 3500 cals clean , lift heavy, train hard you will pack muscle on . If your going to change your diet I recommend to do a 40% protein , 30% carbs and 30% fat because you are an athlete and already have such a fats metabolism .

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl View Post
    And before you say you do eat enough, post up everything you ate yesterday including serving sizes
    PB&J
    Mexican Restaurant cheese dip
    quesadilla
    quesadilla
    PB&J
    PB&J
    PB&J
    Brownie

    yesterday was somewhat of a light day because practice took much longer than usual.
    Also, would it be beneficial to drink a protein shake daily, just for an extra protein boost? Even if i dont currently work out?

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    I see junk junk junk. You didn't eat a single meal.

    Go to the nutrition forum. Stay away from anabolics until you learn how to eat. I put on 25 lbs in a year by learning how to eat. Chicken, fish, lean beef, lean pork. These are your staples. Protein shake only directly after a work out. Slow digesting carbs are important. Fast digesting carbs or fats before a game or practice.

    If you can't learn how to grow naturally, you aren't going to grow on steroids .
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    Great advice right here.!!



    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl View Post
    I see junk junk junk. You didn't eat a single meal.

    Go to the nutrition forum. Stay away from anabolics until you learn how to eat. I put on 25 lbs in a year by learning how to eat. Chicken, fish, lean beef, lean pork. These are your staples. Protein shake only directly after a work out. Slow digesting carbs are important. Fast digesting carbs or fats before a game or practice.

    If you can't learn how to grow naturally, you aren't going to grow on steroids.

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    From a fellow juco pitcher, I hope you are trolling because your diet is terrible and unlike your initial post: food is the issue.
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    got a good friend that pitches in div 2 over in florida, hes a bit of an idiot but similar to this i talked him out of steroids and pushed him into a solid diet, gains or no gains, his performance on the pitch is a lot better from the quality foods he's eating and in the end thats what you'd really want

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    I've been in your shoes. At 19 I was in my first year of college, about 6'1" 170 lbs, thin as a rail with just about the same velocity as you. I didn't even think about steroids back then. In my 4th year, at 22, I was 6'2" 195lbs and had gained about 10mph (avg velocity & top velocity) - naturally. My diet was better than what you described, but looking back it wasn't that great. Back then it was a diet of protein (mainly ground beef & some chicken), pasta, PB and protein shakes. Hardly ate veggies...yeah, not very impressive.

    Heed the advice of the guys above: get your diet in order and you'll see a lot of benefit from that. You're still growing and will make velocity gains naturally if you treat your body right. I played for a long time beyond college, that best advice I can give you is to stay natural at this age. Along with the usual work you'd do as a pitcher - throwing, long toss, leg work & core work - have a solid rotator cuff routine & be religious about it & push yourself with it. Over the course of a career I'd value that routine above the other work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitcherpitcher
    PB&J Mexican Restaurant cheese dip quesadilla quesadilla PB&J PB&J PB&J Brownie yesterday was somewhat of a light day because practice took much longer than usual. Also, would it be beneficial to drink a protein shake daily, just for an extra protein boost? Even if i dont currently work out?
    He had to be joking on his meals... That HAS to be a joke. If that's the truth.... I quit. Quit life.

    ~Base

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