Body fat percentage| body composition

**SOL!D5NAK3** · 06-03-2014, 04:48 AM

hey guys and gals. i didn't know where to post this thread and thought maybe there are some who did a test on a body composition machine here (not those small ones in your hands). this machine was for medical research and it separates body parts to trunk, right leg,left leg, right hand, left hand and for each part there were fat%,fat mass, predicted muscle mass and FFM and for the whole body there were Fat%, FFM (fat free mass),TBW (total body water) and fat mass
well my total BF% was 6.6 (btw it was last year and i've done it a couple of times after but this was my leanest) trunk 4.8 - right leg 6.9- left leg 8.7 - right hand 10- left hand 10.9 .
the question is doesn't body burn fat entirely? isn't the trunk the last part to get lean?? then why the difference? don't mind the date,it was not set and picture is not whole i was to excited to see my BF% i just took a pic.

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**gearbox** · 06-03-2014, 12:23 PM

Not everyone carries fat in their stomach area.

Not sure which machine. Sounds like its way off. Only true way is water. Cause fat floats. Body pod is okay but still error or variance

**SEOINAGE** · 06-04-2014, 01:21 PM

That's a biolelectric impedance machine, i don't put any faith in those.

**Metalject** · 06-04-2014, 03:33 PM

It's fun to know your body fat sometimes but in the end it doesn't really matter. And I can guarantee you without a doubt, in fact I'd bet a years pay on it, 99.999% of the guys on here don't actually know what their BF is. It's funny how people arbitrarily throw numbers out. No one wants to admit being over 15%, and most have no concept of below 6. And those pics that show a guys abs that are supposed to be a BF gauge, that thing is retarded...you can't tell what someone's BF just by looking at their abs, not even close. Any way, that's my opinion on the topic.

**gearbox** · 06-04-2014, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Metalject

It's fun to know your body fat sometimes but in the end it doesn't really matter. And I can guarantee you without a doubt, in fact I'd bet a years pay on it, 99.999% of the guys on here don't actually know what their BF is. It's funny how people arbitrarily throw numbers out. No one wants to admit being over 15%, and most have no concept of below 6. And those pics that show a guys abs that are supposed to be a BF gauge, that thing is retarded...you can't tell what someone's BF just by looking at their abs, not even close. Any way, that's my opinion on the topic.

I love that!
Most have no clue I agree. Unless you get done in water.

I do not see the point of knowing it exactly when it matters what the mirror says not the scale or print out.

**stirated** · 06-04-2014, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

I love that!
Most have no clue I agree. Unless you get done in water.

I do not see the point of knowing it exactly when it matters what the mirror says not the scale or print out.

I think a dexa scan is accurate to 99.9%, that was my impression anyway, maybe someone can correct me if im wrong.

Hydrostatic weighting used to be the only method with accuracy maybe now there is another?

**Metalject** · 06-04-2014, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

I love that!
Most have no clue I agree. Unless you get done in water.

I do not see the point of knowing it exactly when it matters what the mirror says not the scale or print out.

The few times I've done it in the water and with calipers the readings were almost the same. I think calipers can work fine if (big if) the person pinching knows what they're doing. Anything you have to hold with your hands or stand on, very skeptical.

**SEOINAGE** · 06-05-2014, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Metalject

The few times I've done it in the water and with calipers the readings were almost the same. I think calipers can work fine if (big if) the person pinching knows what they're doing. Anything you have to hold with your hands or stand on, very skeptical.

Yep, you have to have the right person do it, it can be fairly decent. Friday I have a qualified person doing skin folds after bod pod, and I know he is good just cause he has done thousands and knows how inexperience can skew the result.

Originally Posted by stirated

I think a dexa scan is accurate to 99.9%, that was my impression anyway, maybe someone can correct me if im wrong.

Hydrostatic weighting used to be the only method with accuracy maybe now there is another?

I've seen some insane results with dexa scan that I just don't see being accurate at all. I know everyone is claiming it is the best, but I am extremely skeptical of it based on people's results.

**Metalject** · 06-05-2014, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by SEOINAGE

Yep, you have to have the right person do it, it can be fairly decent. Friday I have a qualified person doing skin folds after bod pod, and I know he is good just cause he has done thousands and knows how inexperience can skew the result.

I've seen some insane results with dexa scan that I just don't see being accurate at all. I know everyone is claiming it is the best, but I am extremely skeptical of it based on people's results.

I'm with you on the skepticism. This was probably 7-8yrs ago, a good friend of mine was part of a study group using a dexa scan. There were 50+ people in the group, most were normal sized people, a handful very lean and a handful very overweight. My friend was 3wks out from a show, very lean and the results had him close to 30% bf. Now I wasn't there when he did this but he also told me one of the very overweight women, her results came back in the low teens. From his experience, it seemed the people on the extreme ends of the spectrum, very lean or very fat had very inaccurate results. Anyway, not sure what to think, if that was just a bad testing system or something else, I don't know.

**SEOINAGE** · 06-05-2014, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Metalject

I'm with you on the skepticism. This was probably 7-8yrs ago, a good friend of mine was part of a study group using a dexa scan. There were 50+ people in the group, most were normal sized people, a handful very lean and a handful very overweight. My friend was 3wks out from a show, very lean and the results had him close to 30% bf. Now I wasn't there when he did this but he also told me one of the very overweight women, her results came back in the low teens. From his experience, it seemed the people on the extreme ends of the spectrum, very lean or very fat had very inaccurate results. Anyway, not sure what to think, if that was just a bad testing system or something else, I don't know.

One incident recently was a client of shelby starnes. Supposedly put on 27 lbs of muscle and lost a ton of fat, and it had him in low teens but picture looked like low 20s, and this was a 12 week period. the picture just made it obviously not true to me.

**kelkel** · 06-05-2014, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

it matters what the mirror says not the scale or print out.

This ^^^. I never get on the scale as you're never happy when you do.

**SOL!D5NAK3** · 06-06-2014, 02:58 AM

thanks guys, so the only true way is water??
then why these machines are so expensive ?? 5 grand or even more?
i've actually did this machine several times when i was bulking it showed 18 percent of bf also my friend and my dad did it too,they were 11% and 16% . i think the machine is okay with +-1 tolerance ??

**SEOINAGE** · 06-06-2014, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by SOL!D5NAK3

thanks guys, so the only true way is water??
then why these machines are so expensive ?? 5 grand or even more?
i've actually did this machine several times when i was bulking it showed 18 percent of bf also my friend and my dad did it too,they were 11% and 16% . i think the machine is okay with +-1 tolerance ??

That machine was a full 5% different for me vs a bod pod one time. Like what these guys said, probably better to go off of how you look.

**gearbox** · 06-06-2014, 12:34 PM

Its always how you look. Nothing else matters. If your 8% and your buddy is 6% huge difference but you may look better to the human eye.

I can send a abs pics right now of myself and everyone will tell me I am 10% or lower and then they will retract the 10% comment when they see how fat or not defined my overall back is.
yes I carry weight in my stomach like everyone but my back has never been good

**SOL!D5NAK3** · 06-07-2014, 05:04 AM

Its always how you look. Nothing else matters. If your 8% and your buddy is 6% huge difference but you may look better to the human eye.

I can send a abs pics right now of myself and everyone will tell me I am 10% or lower and then they will retract the 10% comment when they see how fat or not defined my overall back is.
yes I carry weight in my stomach like everyone but my back has never been good

hmm that's is one of my wonders too, i was told that stomach is the last part that loses fat (well almost true) but for me i think the stubborn area is my legs (hams). i too think that it differs from person to person, my training partner is like a road map cuz of the veins but his abs are not that visible (very very rare i think).

a silly question but is there any thing to lose the fat of one part of the body?(roids or any thing)

**SEOINAGE** · 06-07-2014, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by SOL!D5NAK3

hmm that's is one of my wonders too, i was told that stomach is the last part that loses fat (well almost true) but for me i think the stubborn area is my legs (hams). i too think that it differs from person to person, my training partner is like a road map cuz of the veins but his abs are not that visible (very very rare i think).

a silly question but is there any thing to lose the fat of one part of the body?(roids or any thing)

You are pretty much correct here. Had my bf tested and I am fairly lean, yet still carry a larger amount in my lower center abs. Others carry completely different and can have what looks like a perfect 6 pack yet be a much higher bodyfat, seen people have very even distributions. Best you can do really is get extremely low bf so that area is below where you want it to be, and hold it for an extended duration. There's topical things people have made that they think help, but in general there's really no spot reduce method other than liposuction.

**gearbox** · 06-07-2014, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by SOL!D5NAK3

thanks guys, so the only true way is water??
then why these machines are so expensive ?? 5 grand or even more?
i've actually did this machine several times when i was bulking it showed 18 percent of bf also my friend and my dad did it too,they were 11% and 16% . i think the machine is okay with +-1 tolerance ??

a dad thats 16%. 16 is usually better then a flat flat stomach (rule of thumb). machine sell cause ppl are stupid and often feel good when they see results are impressive like yours.
how to fat burners that do nothing sell. get someone to market it..simple really.

can you burn fat in one area. aas or not you cant. We all wish we could. you can build muscle in the area which in turn is helping reduce fat if diet is on point.

**gearbox** · 06-07-2014, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

This ^^^. I never get on the scale as you're never happy when you do.

whatever! scales stop at 290 usually is why you do not step on one. CANT get a reading. We know kel, the truth is out!

**MIKE_XXL** · 06-14-2014, 08:23 PM

I never weight myself when i diet...i measure my waist and track my progress that way, if i get down to 29-30" i know i am ready...i dont need a scale to tell me if i got there or not...