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    Exclamation is bread a good carb

    generally have a good diet
    trying to put some quality muscle on though not to much fat
    just had a look at my general daily food intake and i`m having about 7 slices of wholemeal bread per day
    should i try and substitute these with brown rice or paste or is this amount of bread ok

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    Ive heard here that brown rice is the best carb.

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    wheat bread is a good carb and an alright protein source if you eat enough of it. i know that from my cross country coach

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    Ive heard here that brown rice is the best carb.
    untrue, here is some info on it posted by Goose4 and Pinnacle

    Rice is a poor carb.Brown rice is OK in cutting only.There is hardly any difference in calories between a refined carbohydrate like white rice and an unrefined carbohydrate like brown rice but there is a big difference in fiber content. Food that is high in fiber fills you up faster than food stripped of fiber. I can easily finish two cups of white rice but I can hardly go beyond one cup of brown rice without feeling like I have just swallowed a big stone.

    They are extremely poor sources of vitamins (particularly vitamins A, B-group, folic acid and C), minerals, antioxidants and phytosterols.They are toxic when raw- there is no doubt about this- it is a fact that no competent source would dispute- they can be extremely dangerous and it is important never to eat them raw or undercooked. Cooking destroys most but not all of the toxins.
    These toxins include enzyme blockers, lectins and other types. once cooked this is often rapidly digestible-giving a high glycemic index (sugar spike).

    Yep. Rice is akin to putting water in a Jaguar. Why use an inferior energy source for a high performance machine such as the human body?
    I know it's shunned upon by some in the BB community, but low GI carbs is what the human body functions best off of. Yes, an even low GI carbs PWO too. SHOCKING!

    i thought rice was too, until i read this stuff, though i never eat rice anyway

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    Oatmeal is much better than rice or bread.

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    Sweet potatoes and yams, best carb. IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    Sweet potatoes and yams, best carb. IMHO.
    +1. Cant beat em.

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    Oats, Barley, and Sweet Potatoes.

    Thats all you need.

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    so far my meals during the day i should replace with potatoes
    what about pasta (shells)

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    looking for the best thing to have with my chicken at work
    will ordinary potatoes do or is there a big difference with the sweet ones
    have oatmeal in the morning and mixed with my protein drink before and after training

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    ^^^^^SEE ABOVE COMMENTS. (No regular potatoes arent ok)

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    here's a good bread to look for if you are eating that much, it's actually pretty filling and hearty, way more than the stats suggest

    Nature's Own Double Fiber Wheat Bread

    Serving Size 1 slice (28.0 g)

    Amount Per Serving
    Calories 40
    Calories from Fat 9
    % Daily Value*
    Total Fat 1.0g 2%
    Sodium 150mg 6%
    Total Carbohydrates 10.0g 3%
    Dietary Fiber 5.0g 20%
    Sugars 1.0g
    Protein 4.0g

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbot138 View Post
    ^^^^^SEE ABOVE COMMENTS. (No regular potatoes arent ok)
    red skin potatoes are good for you, their complex carbs. i think any thin skin is complex, not sure though. i know red are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phate186 View Post
    here's a good bread to look for if you are eating that much, it's actually pretty filling and hearty, way more than the stats suggest

    Nature's Own Double Fiber Wheat Bread

    Serving Size 1 slice (28.0 g)

    Amount Per Serving
    Calories 40
    Calories from Fat 9
    % Daily Value*
    Total Fat 1.0g 2%
    Sodium 150mg 6%
    Total Carbohydrates 10.0g 3%
    Dietary Fiber 5.0g 20%
    Sugars 1.0g
    Protein 4.0g

    i ve been eating this bread for a few years. i try to tell people about it, but no one wants to listen

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturalsux View Post
    red skin potatoes are good for you, their complex carbs. i think any thin skin is complex, not sure though. i know red are.
    Yeah, they're good for you, they have a ton of nutrients in them, but a cooked red-skin potato has a GI of 88 (oddly enough if eaten cold the Gi is only 56). Also less fiber than a sweet potato. Might as well just go for the sweet potato IMO.

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    If your gonna eat pasta get fettucine.
    Its has a low GI of about 35.


    If your gonna eat bread, make sure its 100% whole wheat.

    Along with your oats, barley, and sweet potatoes.

    If you want fruit, cherries and grapefruits are low on the GI scale. Apples would be next choice.

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    If you are gonna eat bread make it sprouted grain bread or ezekiel bread imo.

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    can someone please explain wtf a sweet potato is!? never seen them in the UK only red and normal ones. And what is the difference between a normal potato and a sweet one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_sneed View Post
    can someone please explain wtf a sweet potato is!? never seen them in the UK only red and normal ones. And what is the difference between a normal potato and a sweet one ?
    a sweet potato aka yam has a lower GI than a normal potato as well as red potato's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_sneed View Post
    can someone please explain wtf a sweet potato is!? never seen them in the UK only red and normal ones. And what is the difference between a normal potato and a sweet one ?
    Its orange on the inside with a orangish/brownish skin. They might call them yams over there (eventhough unless your in the caribbean or somewhere like that its mroe than likely a sweet potato). Hope this helps. Def try and find them, they are a great carb source when cutting and have a pleasant taste as well IMO.

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    I eat sweet taters Everyday love em with a lil coconut oil ..1cup oats too..good thread

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    so the lower on the GI scale the better

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    If you are eating bread eat SPELT BREAD.


    Organic health stores have the best loafs, taste amazing too.

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    FYI-- yams and sweet potatoes are two different things, though in many ways similar. For the complete list of diffs just search it on the net....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst View Post
    FYI-- yams and sweet potatoes are two different things, though in many ways similar. For the complete list of diffs just search it on the net....
    Interesting...thanks for the heads up. I always thought the two were interchangeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick1 View Post
    so the lower on the GI scale the better
    correct! Less insulin speak which will result in less fat storage (simplified explanantion).

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    cheers just bought some yams and sweet pot
    going to try tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick1 View Post
    cheers just bought some yams and sweet pot
    going to try tonight
    sweet pot huh? never had that type, sorry i had too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst View Post
    FYI-- yams and sweet potatoes are two different things, though in many ways similar. For the complete list of diffs just search it on the net....
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phate186 View Post
    sweet pot huh? never had that type, sorry i had too
    hahahahaha

    that was funny

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    Question

    just checked the nutritional value of sweet potatoes.

    > 26g Carbs but 14g from sugar is this ok considering these are naturally occurring sugars?

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    Sweet potatoes (readily available in the UK btw, where are you looking?) have a GI score of approx 50 making them borderline low/medium GI.

    The quantity of sugar is fine, look at the GI scale rather than amount of sugar.

    Isn't all sugar naturally occurring?

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    I have already been eating them a couple of days seen a difference. I was simply curious about the sugar content.

    Maltodextrin and Dextrose pretty sure there not natural sugars bro!

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    Dextrose is refined from corn starch so i guess is natural but is refined.

    Maltodextrin is a maltose (malt sugar) and dextrose combination.

    Differences to watch out for are GI index scores, it's easier than learning all combination of 'simple' sugars.

    Pleased you've noticed a difference, keep it up dude!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Sweet potatoes (readily available in the UK btw, where are you looking?) have a GI score of approx 50 making them borderline low/medium GI.

    The quantity of sugar is fine, look at the GI scale rather than amount of sugar.

    Isn't all sugar naturally occurring?
    Well if its naturally occuring sugar then its natrually occuring sugar?!?!?! I mean its not like someone is taking a syringe and injecting corn syrup into the sweet potato. Any sugar content in fruit or veggies is obviously naurally occuring. And your right, dont get caught up in the sugar content of sweet potatoes, bottom line they are a low-to-medium GI carb and have zero fat and are an excellent carb source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_sneed View Post
    just checked the nutritional value of sweet potatoes.

    > 26g Carbs but 14g from sugar is this ok considering these are naturally occurring sugars?
    Not that it really makes a diference, but 6g of sugar in 3.5 oz of swt pot. Where are you getting your numbers from, they're way off. Use this site.

    http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

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    From the label on the pack bro. Anyway, as i said been using these a couple of days no bloat, or fat gain around the waist which i get from excessive sugar so no problem. Thanks for the input anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_sneed View Post
    From the label on the pack bro. Anyway, as i said been using these a couple of days no bloat, or fat gain around the waist which i get from excessive sugar so no problem. Thanks for the input anyway.
    Labels on packs are always way off bro. Use that site, its straight from the USDA, 100% accurate.

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    Thanks thats a good site, what are your opinions on Quinoa it has a GI similar to sweet potatoes just wondering if you use it personally?

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    Looooovvvvvveeeeeee Quinoa, not sure why it isnt discussed more on this site. Good complex carb, low GI, high fiber, COMPLETE protein, slightly high in fat. But, yeah I love it, its my rice substitute, mix it up with some black beans, delicious.

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