I'm confused. Does the advice in this section assume everyone here is on an AAS cycle

[AlphaMaleDawg]

When people give advice here, do they assume the person asking for advice is natural or on gear? I am pretty much an expert when it comes to nutrition for naturals, but I plan on starting my first cycle of test in a week and a half and am not sure how to adjust my diet based on this

[eatrainrest]

what are your goals.. if your an expert you should know what to do!... really no difference.. if you want to bulk start upping 500 cals daily until you are gaining what you desire on a weekly basis.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

well I know what macros are right for me if I want to do a lean bulk without gear, but Ive read somewhere that calories should be increased by 20% of what I am doing now. any truth to this? I know I need to eat more on cycle, which is music to my ears, but im not sure exactly how much since I dont want to get fat

[eatrainrest]

be safe and just go 500 cals daily and see what happens

[AlphaMaleDawg]

500 over maintenance? that sounds logical

[eatrainrest]

yea i mean it depends what kind of metabolism you have too.. if you gain weight easily and are on gear id go 500 cals daily and just play with the numbers yourself.

[FireGuy]

what are your goals.. if your an expert you should know what to do!... really no difference.. if you want to bulk start upping 500 cals daily until you are gaining what you desire on a weekly basis.

Actually I think there is a significant difference, especially for guys looking to cut.

[eatrainrest]

Actually I think there is a significant difference, especially for guys looking to cut.

well i do think thers a difference, but since A-ive never done a cycle i dont know. and B-if he has an easy time gaining weight its safe to start at 500 then adjust you think? or how would you formulate it

[FireGuy]

I am speaking more towards cutting, a bodybuilder under 10% bf looking to get leaner can get away with far less calories if he is on gear as opposed to the natural guys without losing muscle.

[FireGuy]

BTW- ETR, I do agree with 99% of what you say around here. I usually only comment if I have a contrarian view to whats already being said.

[FireGuy]

Addendum, I think you will also find many lovers of Tren will claim it has great nutrient partitioning effects which can allow someone to take in more calories than a natural guy without wearing it as fat.

[eatrainrest]

BTW- ETR, I do agree with 99% of what you say around here. I usually only comment if I have a contrarian view to whats already being said.

never offense taken by you Fire, i want to know if im misinformed about something and appreciate when you chime in especially because youve been around the game much longer than me

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Addendum, I think you will also find many lovers of Tren will claim it has great nutrient partitioning effects which can allow someone to take in more calories than a natural guy without wearing it as fat.

doesnt testosterone also allow someone to consume much more calories without the fear of putting on as much fat? isnt that one of its greatest benefits?

[C_Bino]

doesnt testosterone also allow someone to consume much more calories without the fear of putting on as much fat? isnt that one of its greatest benefits?

Much more? No. Some more...sure but it's really not that much. It also is GREATLY dependent upon the dose you use.

[T-MOS]

basically, and without getting into clinical trials, Testosterone allows the body to synthesis MORE protein then it can normally..... given that you consume the CORRECT amount of protein, carbs, and good fats.......... Steroids do NOT allow you to eat Crappy and gain muscles.........LOLOL

[AlphaMaleDawg]

basically, and without getting into clinical trials, Testosterone allows the body to synthesis MORE protein then it can normally..... given that you consume the CORRECT amount of protein, carbs, and good fats.......... Steroids do NOT allow you to eat Crappy and gain muscles.........LOLOL

lets say I am about to start a cycle and have had the perfect macros before I started. would adding one cheat meal worth 700 or so calories on top of what I was doing before on a daily basis, be a bad idea? im talking about something like subway or mcdonalds

[T-MOS]

lets say I am about to start a cycle and have had the perfect macros before I started. would adding one cheat meal worth 700 or so calories on top of what I was doing before on a daily basis, be a bad idea? im talking about something like subway or mcdonalds

All depends on where you want your bodyfat to be

[FireGuy]

If you want to add 700 calories why not add them in the form of clean foods and get some benefit from it.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

If you want to add 700 calories why not add them in the form of clean foods and get some benefit from it.

well thats what i would do most of the time. but i was under the impression that you have more room for a small cheat meal every here and there on gear since you have room for more calories. I always eat 100% clean now with maybe 1 unplanned cheat meal per week so eating clean has become easy for me. im just wondering if I have more room for enjoyment

[sizerp]

well thats what i would do most of the time. but i was under the impression that you have more room for a small cheat meal every here and there on gear since you have room for more calories. I always eat 100% clean now with maybe 1 unplanned cheat meal per week so eating clean has become easy for me. im just wondering if I have more room for enjoyment

For a lean bulk - I wouldn't do a cheat meal everyday - maybe more like 1 or 2 days per week on carb up days or something.