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    Weight issue on cycle

    I'm am ending week 5 and last week I came off my dbol kick start. My cycle is 12 weeks of test sust w/ 4 week kick of dbol 40mg a day. I have gained a total of about 10 lbs since I started my cycle. My diet is super clean with very little fat and it shows in my body. Even through out the dbol kick I stayed pretty cut. The issue I'm curious about is the fact that after my third week I have not made any significant weight gains. Maybe half a pound a week. Strength is a different story. I'm still making huge gains there which is why I'm not overly concerned. I have been upping my cals every week. I'm currently taking in roughly 4200-4500 cals. I have always been a hard gainer but this is crazy. I eat all damn day! I cook 5 meals to bring to work everyday and I snack on low sodium jerky between meals. People at work are starting to look at me funny. One asked, "Who all that food was for?" and when I said me they were like wtf?

    Is it possible I'm dropping water weight and a little fat every week and putting on muscle in order to weigh close to the same? I find this hard to believe and I'm thinking I need to add more fat to my diet? I only take in about 40-50gm of fat daily. Or am I one of those unluck bastards that just don't get huge?

    Currently 6" tall 203lbs

    I can provide stats and diet if needed but if the problem is my diet then the only issue would be I'm not eating enough and I've been upping my cals about 200-300 more a day every week. I just don't get it.

    This may be to much info but I have even been shitting less than normal.

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    Diet with very little fat.....

    Theres your problem, your diet is off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    Diet with very little fat.....

    Theres your problem, your diet is off.
    That would actually be very good news to me. I could stand to throw some cheese on my food that should do it!

    Should I just up my fat intake to about 150gm a day? Then see what that does then go from there. I can up my fat intake weekly till I start gaining steady again?

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    Try and keep your fat below 100g, cheese fat isn't exactly your best fat choice.

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    How are you guys able to give advice on what his fat intake should be prior to knowing what his carb intake is?

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    unless hes taking in 400+ grams of protein a day, his carbs are over 600
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    ^^I am following you. When anyone says he is taking in "roughly 4200-4500" calories a day the first thing I conclude is he is not weighing his food and really has no idea what his caloric intake or Macro totals are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    ^^I am following you. When anyone says he is taking in "roughly 4200-4500" calories a day the first thing I conclude is he is not weighing his food and really has no idea what his caloric intake or Macro totals are.
    Just havent done the math since I started eating more. Just did some figuring and it turns out it is closer to 3600 cals but still this is more than twice the amount of food I used to consume before cycle. I know I am definitely taking in 350gm protein plus a day and all the rest is mainly carbs and very little fat.

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    I would like to see your entire diet posted in detail. Times, quantities ect...

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    This is what I ate yesterday but it varys a little day to day but for the most part macro totals are very close to the same each day.

    cal/fat/carbs/protein

    Meal #1 6:20am

    1 banana-200/1/51/2
    1 cup egg whites-117/0/2/26
    Great Grains-Raisin, Dates & Pecans Whole Grain Cereal (Post Selects)
    Serving Size: 3/4 cup (54g), Calories: 210/4.5/40/4
    Fish oil
    (527/5.5/93/32)

    Meal #2 9:00am

    2 1/2lb turkey slice sandwiches on wheat-***/9/68/131
    1 bag of Natural Turkey Jerky-240/0/24/44
    (1143/9/92/175)

    Meal #3 11am

    Two 6oz skinless chicken brests-440/5/0/100
    1 cup sweet potato-212/6/37/3.6
    (652/11/37/103.6)


    Meal #4 1:30pm

    2 Two 6oz skinless chicken brests-440/5/0/100
    1 cup brown rice-216/2/45/5
    (656/7/45/105)

    Meal #5 4:30pm

    2 Two 6oz skinless chicken brests-440/5/0/100
    1 cup brown rice-216/2/45/5
    7pm Snack before gym
    Nature Valley Chewy Trail Mix Bar-140/4/25/3
    (796/11/70/108)

    Meal #6 9:00pm (post workout)

    Monster Milk-320/9/14/45
    (320/9/14/45)

    Meal #7 9:30pm

    Flaxseed oil
    1 8oz grilled lean pork chop (fat cut off)-314/10/0/34
    1/2 cup cottage cheese-70/0/5/13
    (384/10/5/47)

    10pm bed time

    Total:
    Cal/fat/carbs/protein
    (4478/62.5/343/615.6)

    Holy crap I should have done this days ago. I see where one of my problems is. This is basically what I eat except I sub london broil for pork chop (don't usually eat pork) and sometimes yogurt instead of banana. Things like that but for the most part it doesnt very too much.
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    Obviously somthing is off. My nutrition facts, math, something but I'm not sure what?

    Help me Fireguy!
    Last edited by no1tou; 04-03-2010 at 02:15 PM.

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    Yeah, might wanna drop protein significantly and eat more clean complex carbs throughout the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienm05 View Post
    Yeah, might wanna drop protein significantly and eat more clean complex carbs throughout the day.
    Yeah that would def be a start. I dropped some of the meat off the diet today but I was hungry. After eating a little fat from natty peanut butter it def helped to keep me feeling full. I think that may be key for me. More fat, a little more carbs, and drop about 200gm protein.

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    Thats why I asked you to write it out, had a feeling you were doing way too much guestimating. Is there a reason for all those mea with over 100 grams of protein at one sitting? Heck the one meal has 175grams of protein and over 1100 calories. I would start from scratch and limit protein to 45-60 grams per meal tops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    Thats why I asked you to write it out, had a feeling you were doing way too much guestimating. Is there a reason for all those mea with over 100 grams of protein at one sitting? Heck the one meal has 175grams of protein and over 1100 calories. I would start from scratch and limit protein to 45-60 grams per meal tops.
    Honestly the only reason I did that is because of how hungry I was and i didn't want to load up on carbs or fat. I felt like I was starving and thought that would be the best thing to do. It seems to be getting much better now that I added a bit of fat to my diet via one egg yolk for breakfast and a natty pb sandwich. I only added about 20gm of fat and it seems to be calming my hunger. I don't think I will have a problem limiting my meals to to 45-60gm pro.

    Thanks man!

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